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Thread: Help design the NZHS Forum Wildcat - Part 3 - Case

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    Help design the NZHS Forum Wildcat - Part 3 - Case

    Alrighty - the masses have spoken, and we have a 7mm on a short action.

    What case to run it on?

    Keep in mind that it needs to be mag length - preferably std; say Rem 700?
    So if 162 Amax or 180 VLD is on the cards, you dont want it to be 1/2 way into the case - which is not an issue as the case can be shortened to suit.
    I know - its starting to stretch out from the ~200yds that the initial spec was for, but it seems that the masses want something that might reach out a bit further - hence the 7mm.

    Once we have a few ideas that people are agreeing with, will go to a Poll, and see what we get.

    So my suggestion, is a 284 case, shortened so that at mag length, a 162 Amax or 168 VLD is correctly positioned in the neck ie not poking out past the junction, and Ackley improved a bit

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    SAUM with a Linda Lovelace throat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmsaum View Post
    SAUM with a Linda Lovelace throat.
    Trouble is you can't really call it a wildcat?
    1000yds is fun, 1500yds is getting interesting, 2000yds is exciting, 2500yds will blow your mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    Trouble is you can't really call it a wildcat?
    Change the shoulder angle from 30deg to 40 or 45 deg and I promise you can call it anything you like.

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    Ok OK I see your point.

    338 Norma mag brass shortened to 2.035 inch, necked to 7mm. Dead deer.
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    How many are going to use this as a chambering? or is it just to keep bit of talk going?

    shortening cases an pluffing round gets to piss you off after awhile ifs a bit of work

    if wanted short blown out magnum, wouldnt the 243wssm case be easyest? maybe chamber little deeper to shift the shoulder forward a little for more powder, get redding bushind dies an drill the top of the body die an presto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanners View Post

    So my suggestion, is a 284 case, shortened so that at mag length, a 162 Amax or 168 VLD is correctly positioned in the neck ie not poking out past the junction, and Ackley improved a bit
    Now your talking, this has my vote

    The SAUM is pretty common now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tui_man2 View Post
    How many are going to use this as a chambering? or is it just to keep bit of talk going?

    shortening cases an pluffing round gets to piss you off after awhile ifs a bit of work

    if wanted short blown out magnum, wouldnt the 243wssm case be easyest? maybe chamber little deeper to shift the shoulder forward a little for more powder, get redding bushind dies an drill the top of the body die an presto
    You only have to form/shorten a case once
    A 243 WSSM will is 223 length - fits in an AR
    If you push the shoulder forward there is no neck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanners View Post
    You only have to form/shorten a case once
    A 243 WSSM will is 223 length - fits in an AR
    If you push the shoulder forward there is no neck
    have you seen a .30 wolfpup?
    so a 7-243WSSM-PUP (perhaps throw in a parabolic shoulder for shits?) would pretty well fill the action and be about as wild as a cat can get? and totally random to the max

    http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/stanpup05x600.jpg
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    WTF is that monstrosity??

    Thats horrible - can/does it actually shoot or is it a piss take?

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    Isnt 7mm the metric equivilent of 284"?

    So unless the case is shortened then whats the point.

    I can see a committee designed Race Horse comming out looking like Dwarf Camel.

    And of course the 6mm-284 wildcat has already been done with some very good results especially for long range varminting.

    I can see merit in a shortened 284 case capacity wise, Benchrest boys will tell you "Short and Fat is where it's at".

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    7mm = 284 ya

    My idea is a case the right length for a SA, with more poke than a 7-08 but not quite a 'magnum'
    A case 'designed' to suit the package around it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanners View Post
    You only have to form/shorten a case once
    A 243 WSSM will is 223 length - fits in an AR
    If you push the shoulder forward there is no neck
    once till the brass is fucked after so warm firings then all over again

    you have neck still im talking 2.5mm 3mm tops bump forward an have long throat reamer to have them hanging out to use the whole case

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    Short SAUM...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Claw View Post
    iv seen this john done it to get rond the small mag box im his modle 7? cool looking round shortened by .200"

 

 

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