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Barnards would be nice but they're pricey as well as being heavy. I think if the NZHS rifle was to be built it would need to be affordable for most and practical too.
My thoughts on specs are:
Howa stainless short action
TrueFlite #3 or #4 at 22" (flutes?)
Senator Carbon or McMillan Sako hunter Edge stock
standard Howa bottom metal and trigger but tuned to 2lbs or so.
One of the good smiths could be approached to see if they'd be keen to do it or not.
Yep. Sounds good?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tussock
Would other people be interested in this? For it to work/be profitable for the chosen smith maybe a ten gun minimum?
Just thought I'd say there's a member on here very capible of building this
Like the sound of that, do they do a left handed one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tussock
Waitaki engineering do a good rail too, got one for my tikka for $80 IIRC. Could be an option if we want to spread business around
Whats happening with thes? has it gone any firther?
Will do when i get hm
what was the end desison?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanners
Tui_man2,Quote:
Originally Posted by tui_man2
Im also interested in the end decision , Id choose something that handles well and fits like a glove, is light, and powerful -with precision.
Senator stock in Sako 75 exterior dimensions
Model 7 action (ssrnz.co.nz clone)
22" TF
ssrnz.co.nz 3 lever Trigger
Terminator Products T2 Muzzle brake (optional) same thread fits suppressor (also optional)
Calibre 7mmsaum
:thumbsup:
I could suggest a good barrel ........:pacman:
I bet you could. ;) Does that mean you would be keen on a group buy type/NZHS rifle thingy?
I'm pretty interested if we go the group buy way, would need to choose an action that has left handed options though...
Sure, we'll sort something out.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Normie
I have been trying to decide what to build along these same lines so am interested to see how this goes.Is it worth doing a group buy until the rifle has been tested.Im wondering how it will feed as ive told that there can be a few issues when using this sort of brass.Ive already got a barrel and stock and have been trying to decide whether or not a short action is going to limit me so am all ears on this project.
Its going to go ahead.
Will be sorting some more details while I'm away for this next contract and will try and get a reamer price and form dies etc sorted
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanners
So what is the new case going to be?:O_O:
I looked at a short 284, but you need to push the shoulder back 0.25 to get similar cap as 308. So capacity somewhere between 284 and 308 would work. Problem is you will want to use Lapua 6.5*284 brass, and Lapua brass has a thicker shoulder thckness compared ot the neck, so when you push the shoulder back you will be forming the neck out of shoulder material and need to neck turn to remove the "donut"
I dont beleive SAUM brass has variations in wall thickness, but htne your usign a mag boltface.
here's what I did 7mm saum shortened 200 thou. I wanted to shoot one bullet (162 amax at 2800 or so) and I wanted it to feed out of the mag of my model 7 and easily reach the lands. Its been a major learning curve, with heaps of unforseen issues along the way, but I'm nearly there. http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ort_Layer1.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ing_Layer1.jpg
Big thanks to Mitch Maxbury who sorted the rifle and gave lots of useful advice and encouragement and Greg Duley who I also pestered. The history and some of the headaches are covered in here, here and here on another forum. Knowing what i now know, learned the hard way I would do things a little differently if I was to do it again.
Spanners.....So where is this at?
Has it died?
Or is it still a going?
Shootm, perhaps he's internalising a really complicated situation in his head "what S/A wildcat is better than a SAUM" :thumbsup:
'Cant eat your ghost chips bro.....'
I need to get back in NZ and settled and place some orders for bits.
I've only been in NZ 10 weeks this year - sometimes for no more than 1 or 2 days.
Have a heap of stuff landing when I get back, so once I've moved and settled in, will sort something.
Its on my list of 'shit to do'
Sweet as just wondering:cool:
very interested in where this is going. especially if there are options to use reamer and just buy an extra set of dies. or if the stock can be left of since i will just make my own carbon one. Stug also makes carbon stocks.
Have you any pictures of your carbon fibre stocks robhughes ?Quote:
Originally Posted by robhughes-games
if you go with a hower action your excluding all us left hander. If your looking at 10-20 actions, the go a full custom like Stiller Predator so left hand is an option. The other action to consider for those looking for "light" weigfht is the extreame as they do a Rem 700 clone in Titanium...but not yet in left hand!@#$
the sooner you left handers learn to shoot with your right side the better, there is a reason it is called your right side.
bunch of bloody hipsters "oh shooting right handed is sooo mainstream"
408 Cheytac or Viersco Mag shortened to SAUM lengthQuote:
Originally Posted by Terminator
It can then be 6.5mm, 7mm, 30 cal, 338 cal, 375 cal if any of us so desires.
Bruce Bertram can make the brass for us.
Seen it, looks awesome :)
Chris
You mean this one? Yes it does look good :thumbsup:
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...ytac-mag-5455/
Yep :)
I dont get it, other than 'because you can'??
You have to go to a big custom action to run it, and if you were going to do to a big custom, then why not run a full length one and get more performance?
Im confused, i thought this was a 200 meter cartridge?
Big slow pill 338 fed etc, maybe 338 saum?
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Who said anything about a 'big' custom action??Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanners
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Its a custom action given the case size..
Which will be heavier than a say a Rem 700 LA (must be to maintain similar to greater hoop stresses)
It shoots a bullet the same as many other cases which fit in say Rem 700 actions and same or less capacity, thus same/less performance
As I said prior - I dont get it
I understand the 'because you can' and if thats not the reason, you're having to use a custom action for case which is better than what? and you are achieving what?
Seems like square peg in round hole situation, and getting a new gold plated hole instead of a wooden peg to suit
Is this a real build or just talk still? If it is a build could you show pictures along the way
Use the 6mmBR or 30BR case , take your pick of calibers . Maybe use .311 like the 303 ( that caliber is ingrained in NZ and Aussie culture ) Depending on the barrel twist chosen then you could drive lighter bullets fast enough out of that case to knock over most things in NZ out to 200yrds ( look up the 30BR's ballistics it is very effient and pushes 110-120gn bullets quite quick ), but it could also be used sub sonic with heavier bullets .
Sort of a short 303 without the trouble of the rim .
Ken
16inch bbl 338 saum
My ears hurt!Quote:
Originally Posted by Smiddy
Can you suppress a .338? or would the size make it pointless in having a short bush gun?
16in 338 saum, suppressed, 160gr ttsx, bring it on