Help design the NZHS Forum Wildcat - Part 3 - Case

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06-03-2013, 09:15 PM
Smiddy

yes i think weve found it, bush hunting is easy with 20in bbl, 4 inch forward suppressor
06-03-2013, 09:30 PM
veitnamcam

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Im confused, i thought this was a 200 meter cartridge?
Big slow pill 338 fed etc, maybe 338 saum?

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07-03-2013, 07:28 AM
leathel

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Originally Posted by Smiddy

16in 338 saum, suppressed, 160gr ttsx, bring it on

If i wasn't short staffed ATM mine would have been built already.... but I will start with a 20" barrel no can.

The way things are going with people crashing all over the show it might be 6 months before I get the time..... or 1 month. People don't tend to book in their crashes :P
07-03-2013, 11:36 AM
L.R

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Originally Posted by Spanners

Its a custom action given the case size..
Which will be heavier than a say a Rem 700 LA (must be to maintain similar to greater hoop stresses)
It shoots a bullet the same as many other cases which fit in say Rem 700 actions and same or less capacity, thus same/less performance

As I said prior - I dont get it
I understand the 'because you can' and if thats not the reason, you're having to use a custom action for case which is better than what? and you are achieving what?
Seems like square peg in round hole situation, and getting a new gold plated hole instead of a wooden peg to suit

Spanners, you are making assumptions about something you know nothing about. The action we are using is lighter than a s/s LA 700 and also has some other benefits. You are pushing your luck driving a 300gr pill at 3100fps with any case in a rem action.
07-03-2013, 12:02 PM
Spanners

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Originally Posted by L.R

Spanners, you are making assumptions about something you know nothing about. The action we are using is lighter than a s/s LA 700 and also has some other benefits. You are pushing your luck driving a 300gr pill at 3100fps with any case in a rem action.

You'd be surprised what I know :ORLY: There are a couple of people around that hop over the fence regularly.

An action lighter than a 700 SA but bigger and stronger - mind posting up the finite analysis model for interests sake? (which you surely must have done?)

There are hundreds if not thousands of Lapua Improveds chambered in 700s - I know of at least 3 reamers floating around NZ which get a bit of use
338 Edge +P... both those example with do the above on a 700
Round counts in 100 of thousands? through those actions around the world would suggest other wise.. wheres all the failure reports and pics?
Let alone the clones both aftermarket and factory like McMillan etc

Couple of months ago you couldn't push XX pill at YY speed because of pressure - but now it possible?? :x_x:
07-03-2013, 12:10 PM
L.R

The action is designed for the cheytac case,there are other materials in the world other than stainless and Crome steels. You think you know but really know fuck all!

We do not need to exceed 70k psi to get that velocity.

I would own a lap imp on a 700 myself, all I'm saying is they are getting pushed to the limits and the rounds don't fit nicely in them either. There is a reason all the Rem clones for lapua cases are bigger in diameter and lug size than the rem action, not the same as you suggest.
29-03-2013, 02:55 PM
Normie

This is an interesting wildcat. I like the idea a lot. Non magnum Short action 6.5 getting 3k. Almost too good to be true. Worth a read.

New 6.5 Idea - Long Range Hunting Online Magazine
29-03-2013, 03:47 PM
L.R

To good to be true alright. Shorten a 284 case reduce capacity lower pressures and increase velocity, I don't think so.
29-03-2013, 06:40 PM
Normie

Seems it works though. They got 3040 something with RL17
16-09-2013, 03:44 PM
Toby

So whats happening with this now?
19-09-2013, 12:08 AM
Steveh054

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Originally Posted by Toby

So whats happening with this now?

Lots of excited replies for your question Toby
24-09-2013, 07:36 PM
distant stalker

Think it requires spanners being in the country more than 5 minutes at a time for there to.be some progress
24-09-2013, 08:18 PM
Spanners

I've been holding off finishing the order as have been waiting for the prints for the 44 Claymore reamer
Just heard from him with the bullshit excuse that can't give them to me because of ITAR
What a fucking load of shit, there are reamer prints all over the net and on the reamer makers website

I'm home next week, so will draw the 44 up myself and get it in with the 7mm
24-09-2013, 08:20 PM
Toby

Have you found a 44 barrel?
24-09-2013, 08:21 PM
Spanners

I told you I have the barrels covered :)
Read and let the info soak in :)
24-09-2013, 08:24 PM
Toby

Shit. Well thats good then. I started making plans for a .260ai because I couldnt find a 44. But nevermind back to 44 which is good.
25-09-2013, 01:01 PM
R93

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Originally Posted by Toby

Shit. Well thats good then. I started making plans for a .260ai because I couldnt find a 44. But nevermind back to 44 which is good.

You have to be slightly challenged to run/own a .260 AI Toby. If you walk up a city street, and just have to touch every parking meter, you may just start to qualify.;)
25-09-2013, 01:10 PM
Toby

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Originally Posted by R93

You have to be slightly challenged

I thought it was clear I was
25-09-2013, 02:22 PM
Neckshot

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Originally Posted by R93

You have to be slightly challenged to run/own a .260 AI Toby. If you walk up a city street, and just have to touch every parking meter, you may just start to qualify.;)

Must have a accasional fat girl oiled up fetish,cant take your self to seriously either other wise don't call your self a kiwi bloke who likes more than just the mainstream cal's, but I cant say to much as im not cut out for shooting!!!.
25-09-2013, 02:35 PM
R93

I will admit to being challenged, but I have never been in to fat chicks like you Neckers......oily or not:D
25-09-2013, 05:16 PM
veitnamcam

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Originally Posted by R93

You have to be slightly challenged to run/own a .260 AI Toby. If you walk up a city street, and just have to touch every parking meter, you may just start to qualify.;)

Its just a bit worse than 6mm08 eh ;):D:D:D

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25-09-2013, 06:25 PM
R93

No Cam, it is not. Your sexual persuation has to be questioned owning any 6mm.;) I would just rather be retarded:D
25-09-2013, 07:00 PM
veitnamcam

:D:D:D

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25-09-2013, 07:28 PM
Neckshot

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No Cam, it is not. Your sexual persuation has to be questioned owning any 6mm.;) I would just rather be retarded:D

so what dose borrowing a 6mm for years make you?????.................bi retarded:D swinger:thumbsup:.I know your mates have a cruel sense of humor as they own poo 4 free's just to anoy you:D
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oooohhhhh love that shit Davo!!! ummmm stop it stop it!!!;)
25-09-2013, 08:02 PM
R93

I was all of the above when I used one, obviously. I seen the light and even managed to avoid fat chicks in oil when I changed cals.
None of my mates that I hunt with, own a 6mm in any variety.
25-09-2013, 08:08 PM
Toby

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Originally Posted by R93

I was all of the above when I used one, obviously. I seen the light and even managed to avoid fat chicks in oil when I changed cals.
None of my mates that I hunt with, own a 6mm in any variety.

I must have some sense as I went right to 6.5
25-09-2013, 08:26 PM
Neckshot

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Originally Posted by R93

I was all of the above when I used one, obviously. I seen the light and even managed to avoid fat chicks in oil when I changed cals.
None of my mates that I hunt with, own a 6mm in any variety.

ba ha ha ha im still retarded so that's me fucked!!......bloody fat chicks always causing greif.I better stop contaminating this thread with my nonsense
25-09-2013, 09:24 PM
kiwijames

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Originally Posted by R93

I was all of the above when I used one, obviously. I seen the light and even managed to avoid fat chicks in oil when I changed cals.
None of my mates that I hunt with, own a 6mm in any variety.

Ooh that hurts.
25-09-2013, 09:24 PM
sneeze

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Originally Posted by R93

I was all of the above when I used one, obviously. I seen the light and even managed to avoid fat chicks in oil when I changed cals.
None of my mates that I hunt with, own a 6mm in any variety.

Nothing like defining a relationship:angry::D
25-09-2013, 09:32 PM
Neckshot

He loses all rational thinking when you touch on a 243:D secretly dave walks past and pokes every 243 in the shop!:)
25-09-2013, 09:34 PM
sneeze

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Originally Posted by R93

I was all of the above when I used one, obviously. I seen the light and even managed to avoid fat chicks in oil when I changed cals.
None of my mates that I hunt with, own a 6mm in any variety.

On reflection I have to agree.:ORLY:
25-09-2013, 09:46 PM
R93

Forgive my slight oversight!:D I forgot that you 2 bums had 6mills because you both showed up to hunt, with decent gear. :P
25-09-2013, 09:49 PM
Ground Control

I suppose a 243 is cheaper than a sex change .
25-09-2013, 10:10 PM
sneeze

Kiwiwjames you should come down for week in early jan. Seems I have an opening now:D
25-09-2013, 10:21 PM
R93

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Originally Posted by sneeze

Kiwiwjames you should come down for week in early jan. Seems I have an opening now:D

Come on me old mate.:D I will become a tradition. You can invite all your mates to laugh at the retard from the coast, floundering around Keneperu trying to catch fish.

KJ should come down. He will keep you honest on the steel and more importantly on the whiskey, you might get thru half a bottle between you :P
26-09-2013, 05:37 PM
sneeze

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Originally Posted by R93

Come on me old mate.:D I will become a tradition. You can invite all your mates to laugh at the retard from the coast, floundering around Keneperu trying to catch fish.

KJ should come down. He will keep you honest on the steel and more importantly on the whiskey, you might get thru half a bottle between you :P

Yeah OK but I know Im going to feel dirty after
26-09-2013, 06:27 PM
kiwijames

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Originally Posted by sneeze

Kiwiwjames you should come down for week in early jan. Seems I have an opening now:D

Shall I bring the 243?
26-09-2013, 07:02 PM
R93

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Originally Posted by kiwijames

Shall I bring the 243?

Yeah mate. I think sneeze was gunna set up a range for the ladies and kids anyway lol

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26-09-2013, 07:41 PM
sneeze

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Originally Posted by kiwijames

Shall I bring the 243?

Thats like "should I bring a bottle to a whiskey evening?"
22-10-2013, 03:26 PM
7mmsaum

Had a wee think today about the suitability of a short 7mm as a forum wildcat.

I presumed it could have a few practical features.........

1. quietness and low recoil when suppressed. (Great for those 4 pound single shots !)

2. Economical to reload

3. Fits factory short actions

4. Std 22-250, 243, 7mm08 boltface

5. And 3000fps+ with 120 Ballistic Tips or TTSX projectiles for humane harvesting.

With that in mind I used a 7mm mandrel and opened up the neck of some Rem and Sako 22-250 brass.

STD 22-250 and 7mmFEH (forum elite hunter)
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The 7mm/22-250 holds 40 grains of adi2208 to the neck shoulder junction, no doubt a faster burn rate powder would give us the velocity we need.

Shouldn't be too hard to get a reamer made, or use a std 22-250 reamer and a 7mm throater.

22-250 dies can have the neck altered/bigger bushing or blank dies reamed.

If the chambering is too slow or lacks excitement for some then a simple ream to 7mm08 returns the rifle to its former glory.

It's no LR bomber but bush edge and less than 250 yrds should see it in its element, - perhaps maybe :)

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