Thread: How fast/effective?

I can't help with the speed, but if you are worried about expansion use 30-30 projectiles, they are designed for those velocities.

Use some of those 170 grain cast bullets start at 27 grains 2206H and work up to about 35 grains or 1800-1900 fps they expand at 1500fps the recoil is light
at that velocity, The 151HP are dynamite at that velocity

Have some 150g corlokt and 150g interlock Bullets here as well,trying to use what I already have on hand at the moment,might give the 170g cast Bullets a go tho,no chrony so would only be guessing at speed tho.

Originally Posted by shooternz

Use some of those 170 grain cast bullets start at 27 grains 2206H and work up to about 35 grains or 1800-1900 fps they expand at 1500fps the recoil is light
at that velocity, The 151HP are dynamite at that velocity

Worth stressing that a 170 grains heavier boolit does not necessarily equate to bigger recoil. Cast non-jacketed bullets require a third less powder charge for same velocity, and the velocity run at is lower in any case (because of limitations of the strength of lead vs rifling grooves). As shooternz points out, cast HP boolits are good (better) at expanding, even at quite slowish velocities.

As an aside (I initially misread the post, thinking someone was considering heavy boolits in an 7.62 Soviet rifle). Heavy boolits in a 7.62x39 rifle. When the 7.62x39 round was adopted by the Soviets in the 1940s, they went for a 1:9.45" twist which was copied straight from the 7.62x54R Mosin rifle. Same rifling machines making different / same-same barrels. This fast twist was originally adopted to stabilise heavy 210 grain round nosed projectiles, but reincarnated in the x39s spinning 126 grain bullets it is just too fast - actually deleterious to accuracy, so some modern manufacturers offer 7.62x39's with slower twist rifling for that reason.
The traditional 7.62x39 barrel has an inherited/throwback ability to stabilise heavy, long slugs with a fast twist it has no need for with standard milspec ammo (except perhaps for longer tracer bullets). A heavier bullet will do just fine in the standard 7.62x39 fast twist barrel, in fact it will feel strangely and unexpectely at home with a just fine twist rate.

I have used the 150g SSTs with 43g 2206h on Sika and they were really destructive on the meat,turning the front shoulders to jelly at bush ranges,hoping the slower loads will expand well but not blow up,I like a blood trail as well so hoping for pass thrus.otherwise I will try the cast Bullets or invest in some 30-30 pills,short round ones don’t feed well in my gun tho.

The hornady blurb states the SSTs will expand down to 1800fps so there is some hope there.