Humping & Fisting

Down the line and called in to the local to have a look around and thought I'll grab some powder while I'm here, save me 30 min drive to me usual. So ol mate heads out back and comes back with a container of H4895 with the price tag of $100. I actually said "holy fuck" under my breath but I think he overheard and wasn't to impressed when I said I'll give it a miss. He stormed off rather quickly.

They must have some serious buying power and that seems ridiculously overpriced. Does that price vary store to store, does anyone buy their powder from them?

Didn't know they sold powder. Certainly wouldn't be first, second or third choice to buy from any of the ones I've been in as I don't think most of them would know how to reload.

Seems a normal H and F responce ( high price tag )

I have been to three or four of those places around the country and have never seen anything relegated to reloading in any of them.

Have bought powder from my local mainly because it’s too much effort to get it anywhere else. Can’t really compare on price but they have always looked after me.

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So far as i know 2206H is the same stuff under a different label. $ 21 ish cheaper at Reloaders Supplies

Yeah, you pay a premium for the Hodgdon name.

Exported from ADI in Oz in bulk to the States, packaged in pretty cans and then all the way back to NZ. Why would buy the Hodgdon.....

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Originally Posted by johnd

Seems a normal H and F responce ( high price tag )

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High as Fuck

Yea they didnt have the 2206h was my first choice. So asked for H4895. Think WSI has it at $78ish.

They actually had a fair selection of reloading stuff, for a H&F. Dies, brass, powdermeasuring, tools, lubes, calipers, shell holders etc.
I guess their location means they stock it and people buy it cause powder is too far to travel for. They only stocked for the mainstream type calibres though.....

I think potentially we might see prices increase for everything as supplies dwindle, or get held up in a warehouse somewhere.

Stock up I reckon [emoji106]

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Yes prices are going up, last box of 6 mm SSTs cost me $ 73 seen them today for $93. Once again the supply from overseas ain't helping with prices.

I've never seen a drop of powder or a die or anything similar in my local H/F and there is major reloading going on around here.
The south gets it a bit tough in that department
Seems the powder comes in north and if your lucky whats left drifts south, eg R26 is like fairy dust down here. I'd be really keen for some but....?
Don't need just one can , no bloody use if you get a good load then can't get anymore.

Up to the individual owner operator to stock the shelves then I guess, I've never seen anything in Tauranga or Hamilton but have never really looked that hard to be fair. Just happened to be driving through Taupo so called in for a look

Paid 90 bucks for a bottle of 2206H from Gun Supplies last weekend. I've just come to expect it buying from smaller shops. No reason a place like HF shouldn't be able to match the price of Reloaders though. I wish powder wasn't such a ball ache to get around the county.

Sika Show but get in 4am.[LOL] The supplies go quick or else pre order from Steve Collins.

I would walk 100 miles in bare feet to another shop before I would set foot in one of their shops. They just keep shafting hunters and shooters at every opportunity it seems.

Went into farmlands Palmy and brought 5 boxes of 22 mag, then out of interest went to hnf. Asked for the same stuff salesman gets it down and happily tells me the price is $35.95, $15 a box more expensive than farmlands I said thanks but put it back.

I suspect there are individual stores who would like to lower their prices to be competitive, but can't due to the terms of the franchise agreement (prices set by Hunting and Fishing NZ Ltd head office).

I would have thought H&F Taupo would have offered more competitive powder prices, as it seems a product perhaps only sold in that outlet (never seen in another store). Guess not...seems even the powder price is controlled by head office.

Apart from pricing of 2nd hand guns, franchise owners really do have their hands tied in relation to new product pricing. However one of the benefits of franchises is benefiting from lower cost price due to larger purchasing power, this is then passed onto the consumer.... something that H&F head office seems to not have realised.

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I suspect there are individual stores who would like to lower their prices to be competitive, but can't due to the terms of the franchise agreement (prices set by Hunting and Fishing NZ Ltd head office).

I would have thought H&F Taupo would have offered more competitive powder prices, as it seems a product perhaps only sold in that outlet (never seen in another store). Guess not...seems even the powder price is controlled by head office.

Apart from pricing of 2nd hand guns, franchise owners really do have their hands tied in relation to new product pricing. However one of the benefits of franchises is benefiting from lower cost price due to larger purchasing power, this is then passed onto the consumer.... something that H&F head office seems to not have realised.

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In it to make a killing not a living.

Any yet Botany H&F for a long while had the cheapest powder around Auckland, something not known by many.
So, they can do it.

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Originally Posted by charliehorse

Yea they didnt have the 2206h was my first choice. So asked for H4895. Think WSI has it at $78ish.

They actually had a fair selection of reloading stuff, for a H&F. Dies, brass, powdermeasuring, tools, lubes, calipers, shell holders etc.
I guess their location means they stock it and people buy it cause powder is too far to travel for. They only stocked for the mainstream type calibres though.....

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I see you are in matamata. You should be going to workshop innovation

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I see you are in matamata. You should be going to workshop innovation

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This . Much cheaper.

Mate....you guys are gunna hate this but my local got 2 bottles of 2209 in for me - took 2 months but only $60 each....that was 3 weeks ago

My local hnf does powder at a reasonable price. $70-$75 for 1lb of 2208. I only buy it there for convenience everything else is blackwatch, workshop innovation and of course gunworks.

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Mate....you guys are gunna hate this but my local got 2 bottles of 2209 in for me - took 2 months but only $60 each....that was 3 weeks ago

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Second this. Just had a look at my bottle of 2209 which I got from them and it was priced well. I do only buy powder there though due to not being able to buy online. Everything else I get through workshopinnovation. Our Manawatu H&F does have reasonable stock of reloading stuff now

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I see you are in matamata. You should be going to workshop innovation

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@superdiver dont worry I do, just ordered 3 bottles last night. Was the mere fact I was passing through and thought I might save a trip.

ADI powders which I've seen in outlets Waikato have been $72, but don't do H&Fleesing or GC.

Sorry guys, I wasnt meaning a HnF store....meant my local sport shop

I used to get some reasonable prices and discounts at a local H&F years ago but the guys I delt with moved on......actually come to think of it I dont think it was H&F then......sportsworld maybe.

Anyway only reason I would go to one now after the appalling way they treated us all in their submission to parliament post massacre is to be nosy/ try stuff on etc before buying elsewhere.

Fuck Hunting and Fishing the turn coat monopolist wankers with no interest in hunting or firearms other than making as much money as possible.

I hope they go broke.

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I used to get some reasonable prices and discounts at a local H&F years ago but the guys I delt with moved on......actually come to think of it I dont think it was H&F then......sportsworld maybe.

Anyway only reason I would go to one now after the appalling way they treated us all in their submission to parliament post massacre is to be nosy/ try stuff on etc before buying elsewhere.

Fuck Hunting and Fishing the turn coat monopolist wankers with no interest in hunting or firearms other than making as much money as possible.

I hope they go broke.

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And catch an uncomfortable std....that would be fitting.

Got 2sets dies from manawatu h &f recently, I asked what the price was and response was from the guys I know quite well, dunno...whatever they need to be to be same as everyone else, so I was happy and ordered them. They came in and one was non standard from manufacturer so price was meant to be more and they dropped it to match the other dies and were cheaper than anywhere else

But as has said previously I think we are lucky in manawatu with a good store

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Got 2sets dies from manawatu h &f recently, I asked what the price was and response was from the guys I know quite well, dunno...whatever they need to be to be same as everyone else, so I was happy and ordered them. They came in and one was non standard from manufacturer so price was meant to be more and they dropped it to match the other dies and were cheaper than anywhere else

But as has said previously I think we are lucky in manawatu with a good store

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I've bought reloading gear from a lot of different places, common theme seems to be tiny margins, well that's what they say anyway. Hence why the whole country is pretty much the same price.