Thread: Lehigh Bullets

I wanted some subsonic 300 BLK hunting rounds and did a bit of research into what works. As such I ordered in some Lehigh bullets in a small quantity to put on the website in case anyone else was also interested. Local website.

Here is the Lehigh website. I have an export permit for most of their bullets including the match solids. I am planning my next order now so if anyone wants to try some of their rounds, email me and I will get them ordered into the next batch.

My initial impression is that they do indeed expand within the first 50mm of meat. I shot several possums from 3m to 50 meters and all had massive exit wounds from the 194 grain shot at around 1018 fps using 7.3 grains of lilgun. I have not shot a deer with one yet but that is planned for the end of February. I haven't loaded the supersonic rounds yet.

can you get the 168 subbys

Dude - I'd be up for this.. i saw the I think 220 or 230's Subs reviewed on Youtube on twang and Bang. and was wondering how to get a hold of them.

Do you know what you are looking to bring back? what the minimums are to make it worthwhile for you? and the potential costings?. As I say very keen, just drop me a PM with the details.

Word was Hornady were also going down a similar path that may or may not be on show at the "Shot Show" this week. I guess I'll wait to hear the report back from John and Darrin in a week or so's time.

Cheers P.

Here is what is on my current export license:

Controlled Chaos .224 55g
Controlled Chaos .308 110g
Controlled Chaos .308 145g
Controlled Fracturing .308 168g
Controlled Fracturing .308 174g
Controlled Fracturing .338 283g
Controlled Fracturing Pistol .355 105g
Controlled Fracturing Pistol .451 170g
Match Solid .338 245 g
Match Solid .416 416 g
Match Solid .510 650 g
Match Solid .510 750 g
Match Solid .510 808 g
Maximum Expansion .308 194 g

I can mix and match any number of these items in an order. Until I get to large quantities, each box is limited to 20 pounds. The last time I brought in two 20 pound packs. With shipping, GST and clearance fees, they still come up only slightly dearer than they would in the US when adjusted for GST and NZD USD conversion.

Keep in mind that the subsonic bullets MUST be shot subsonic or transsonic and they are very sensitive to twist rate to keep them stable. When I asked why the 194 maximum expansion rounds had a boat tail rather than a flat tail for better sound from a suppressor, they told me they would not stabilize with a flat base. I duplicate all the individual info from their site on my site for bullets I carry. Check their site for data on rounds I am not currently carrying for load applications.

If you want what I have now, you can order them off the website. If you want something different, I will add it to the next order which will go in next week.

Thanks Guys... Have just ordered a pack off the website of the 194gr. I'll let you know how I get on.. Will probably split them with Darrin for his AR and I'll use in the Ruger Ranch loads as an evaluation of what they work well in.

Best regards P.

Here is an answer to some questions I had direct from Dave at Lehigh Defence:

You can shoot any of the .308 subsonics in any .308 cartridge at 1040fps as long as the barrel twist is 1:8 or faster. I guess there are a lot of Tikka's there in 1:11 twist and none of our bullets will be stable there. The 02-308-170-LP, 170gr Controlled Fracturing will stabilize ok in most 1:10's, but the 168, 174, and 194 need a 1:8; if a customer shoots any of these in a 1:11 with a can on, they are going to have a baffle strike. The BC's (G1) for the .308 subsonics on the Lehigh Defense site are as follows: 168gr(0.630), 170gr(0.531), 174gr(0.586), 194gr(0.638)

Would the high velocity round perform similar to the Barnes? Would be a lot more cost effective

I will take one or two boxes 50-100) of the 194grn expansion rnd for the blackout please

Sorry, I sold out of the 194's. Carpe got the last one. I will reorder today and get any other projo's in the next shipment based on requests.

so what should i use from a 12" 308 if i want to use subsonics and avoid baffle strike?.. i am using 168s at supersonic at the mo

If you have a 1 in 8 twist then all the subs should work according to Dave at Lehigh. I have 168, 174 and 194 on order along with an assortment of other stuff. I would always advise checking any new round is stable without the can before running them with a can on.

so what can I use with my 1 in 12 twist

Originally Posted by scoped

so what can I use with my 1 in 12 twist

You could get away with the 174's but 1-12 is usually optimised for 150's. Being a subsonic load, that might change also...Only one way to find out bro.

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

Would the high velocity round perform similar to the Barnes? Would be a lot more cost effective

I haven't shot the Barnes so I can't comment. Here is a link to some videos of the Lehigh bullets in a variety of media. They seem to perform quite well.

Originally Posted by scoped

so what can I use with my 1 in 12 twist

Only the supersonic rounds. If the twist is to low, the bullet will yaw.

Any news on the locking cans ?