A little bit of a play with the Tuibob and a suppresser

How long till we see that barrel on tard me "Fired aproxx 50 rounds" :D

Looked like fun

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Originally Posted by baldbob

heres a pic of the .243 standard... TUIBOB... And the 6.5-06...
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/P1000658.jpg
YERIMAGM8 Whilst thia was done and had planned to be done all in abit of fun...

I mean like who gets to blow up a perfectly good suppresser and knock out 200 rounds all for nothing everyday?

And heres the Utube with synced sound so it dont look like im firing in the air lol..
fireforming the .243 tuibob And suppresser test BOB TV!!!!] - YouTube

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The tuibob looks like one of the Frank brothers.

You should have posted it up as "how to blue a barrel" :D

well be a slow time for me to get them up here due to other things but here we go have some of the weee cases that had a little bit of a hard time you might say? others may say they where maybe a warm load, but just a touch maybe?

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...2/brass002.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...2/brass003.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...2/brass004.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...2/brass006.jpg

The extractor mark on the 3rd in in the top photo is right up there!
I burst out laughing on the 3rd photo.


Time for some new brass eh

children do not try this at home.....

Seriously dont do over pressured crazyshit unless you fully know your action and barrels characteristics..

cam barrels wont get redhot just get the purply colour goin on :thumbsup:

And we attacked the riffle last night and heres the result...
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/P1000659.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/P1000662.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/P1000664.jpg

Wack 200 odd super hot rapid fire threw that suppessor its the same as mine right:thumbsup:
Oh right new barrel............................................ .....................Should run it nicely:D

I recon you should polish the barrel to match the action.:yaeh am not durnk:

Thats a fukn TF U\M noway thats gettin eff all of much.... Im keepin tge ruger now I cant bare to sell my most accurate shootin riffle ive ever owned.. The .270 is becoming a 6.5/06 too.. So ive re regulated to reality.. The edge is getting improved.. Life is a toy:)

Lol that was a ballsup to end up with the action all shiny...

Yup 270 a bit like the 308,good alround cals but left behind by the higher BC projectiles(dammit I wanted to write pills and not only is the word longer but iv had to type all this) in other bore sizes.

well wee cammy you can tell evewryone how you won a heap of money in lotto now that ive lety it out:D:thumbsup:
And slap a 6.5 BBL on that sexi sako ah bruv :thumbsup:

Have you got a winning ticket your giving me?
The only thing going on that Sako would be another Sako barrel.

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Thats a fukn TF U\M noway thats gettin eff all of much.... Im keepin tge ruger now I cant bare to sell my most accurate shootin riffle ive ever owned.. The .270 is becoming a 6.5/06 too.. So ive re regulated to reality.. The edge is getting improved.. Life is a toy:)

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Not before mine it aint!!!!!

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Originally Posted by R93

Not before mine it aint!!!!!

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davey davey davey...... ur in oz....... IM HERE... get used to it:thumbsup:

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davey davey davey...... ur in oz....... IM HERE... get used to it:thumbsup:

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I have my spys ya dodgy bugger!:P

Bob. What muffs do you have on in the vid? Any good?

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Originally Posted by tui_man2

well be a slow time for me to get them up here due to other things but here we go have some of the weee cases that had a little bit of a hard time you might say? others may say they where maybe a warm load, but just a touch maybe?

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...2/brass002.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...2/brass003.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...2/brass004.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...2/brass006.jpg

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those first few are not so much hot but fired without the base of the case hard against the bolt... the case seperation is a dead give away for that ;)

Might as well throw away any brass fire formed nat hard against the bolt as it will most likley all have a thin spot..

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/P3220043.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/P3220002.jpg

Although the ejector mark does show it was also prety warm :yaeh am not durnk:

Leathel u put it right on the money...:) :) :)

Thoses muffs are those electronic jobbies popshot did a bulkbuy on.. At first I wasnt to intriuged but ive really come to love them :)

Ps that brass was 15x fired already, we were using it to "form test"..

All that noise didn't seam to worry that little cat you can see in the bottom right of the video:)

kj

That is a cool looking case

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You running a business or a circus Tuiman? Look up the health and safety and employment act of 1992.

I will summarise it for you. When you blow someone's whole head off, not just part of it, your going to jail, you do know that right?

Bob, when you showed that video to your "gunsmith" did he tell you had destroyed your barrel? Because you have. It's a death trap now. It would be bad enough if you had quenched the whole thing, but you didn't. You quenched half. So now the upper half and the lower half have different crystal structure. All the stresses of firing those apocalyptically overloaded rounds are going to focus along the join between the steel of different crystal structure, between the quenched and unquenched halves.

I know your average fitter and turner/engineer won't know that much about metallurgy, but they should at least know the basics.

It's very unlikely I will have anyone to say "I told you so" to if I'm right.

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I think you may find the barrel was already toast and he used it to form fire by reaming the toasted barrel.... At least that's what it looked like to me... and No I would never have got the rifle that hot even if it was toasted :P

Lol tussock tussock tussock!!!!!
Bit of a calling the kettle black while its still got the primer on here!!!!!

That was an old barrel that had had close 2000 rounds thru .243 so as u can imagine it was fairly poked and now sits in my gunsafe would you like to buy it?????!!!!
As to the "apocalyptically overloaded" rounds they were infact 46gn of n165 & if u care to do some research you will find that 48gn of such powder was the load we ran in the standard .243!!
So i feel i can fairly say that 46gn as a forming load to .243 ai is generally unapocalyptic!!!!

In regard to the changing of this crystal structure u will notice that it was onli the end of said "old" barrel imersed in mr puddle!!!!! And not the action!!!

In relation to "blowing" peoples heads off I feel you have been listening to a few of KIWIGREGS compulsive lies he feels is perfectly acceptable to spread around the country!!!! Hes been known before to spread every conveivable rumour in the attempted defaming of one other well known NZ gun enthusiast!!! Its becoming more and more obvious hes performing the same lies and misdemeanors of truth!!!

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Originally Posted by Tussock

You running a business or a circus Tuiman? Look up the health and safety and employment act of 1992.

I will summarise it for you. When you blow someone's whole head off, not just part of it, your going to jail, you do know that right?

Bob, when you showed that video to your "gunsmith" did he tell you had destroyed your barrel? Because you have. It's a death trap now. It would be bad enough if you had quenched the whole thing, but you didn't. You quenched half. So now the upper half and the lower half have different crystal structure. All the stresses of firing those apocalyptically overloaded rounds are going to focus along the join between the steel of different crystal structure, between the quenched and unquenched halves.

I know your average fitter and turner/engineer won't know that much about metallurgy, but they should at least know the basics.

It's very unlikely I will have anyone to say "I told you so" to if I'm right.

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Hit the p pipe again there mate?

Another case of half the story and twisted from the wrong people and here you go off like a half cocked gun:D

When you get the facts straight then come talk to me if not go back to the drip club:)

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Utterly destroyed cases??? Are u blind?? I actually thought they werent formed out all that well!!!

This was fireforming standard 243 with a reduced load to 243ai..

Maybe u are on the p pipe!!!

Im not sure what kiwigregs problem is myself but of recent hes decided to take the QC route and be a little imature baby!!!!

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Sorry, it's all a hoax then? The video, case photos etc are fake?

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So what are you getting at? Put the questions I'll give you the answers. . . . .

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The rubbish bin. ...
Old 12 times fired hard brass that got shot since was no good. . . . Again point is? Beating around the bush here. The joy of the Internet a

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Humor can come off as fact sometimes.... well I read the original comment as humor ... I guess a smiley with tong out might have helped

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Like I said half the story. Do you think would fire those in a new tube?

You not going to win this when you don't know what all happened anyway.
For a 'smart guy' you not doing yourself any favors now:D

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Originally Posted by Tussock

So your happy to to use dangerous, worn out brass you know is past it's failure point, and have it linked directly to your business?

Again, I suggest you review the health and safety act of 1992. You can moan about it all you like but it won't make the cell door shutting sound any different.

I see 12 cases where any one of them would have stopped an amateur from continuing, let alone someone claiming to be a professional.

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12???

I see 7 in those pics, 3 pics of the 4 fired without the case being on the bolt face causing flat primers and case separation, and three with split shoulders that you can even get firing new cases to AI, but they are likely older harder brass that needed annealing.

Yes he should have had glasses on for sure!

Yes like abe said rubbish bin and 12x fired cases which we used to try form the first ones.... = epic fail!!!! Fact is the cases in the video were completly seperate......

Fact is ur merely clawing at rock and twisting facts now in a lame attempt to show us in a bad light!!!

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To be honest, in all my time on gun forums Iv never seen such a bland response to cases that look like that, and shooting like that, and treating a firearm like that, from an individual, let alone a business.

Am I the only one who finds the whole thing bizarre?

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Nope.

Abe, I don't know you or the quality (or not) of the guns you build.

But I can honestly say that after watching that vid and some of the things you've posted, I would think twice about buying something you worked on. I just dont get the point of destroying something for no reason, and proving that you can break things...

You might see it differently, I'm just letting you know how a potential customer sees it...

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I'm not trying to cast you guys in a bad light Bob.

I'm trying to point out your casting yourselves in a bad light. It reads how it reads.

I'm also trying to point out you can't get away with this shit if its related to a business. You will get yourselves a court date.

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At what point was it advertising for me? It was all done for a hunting trip we went on. Like mates do deals so it's not a issue at all.

And with the cases woo hoo as like any one they can do what ever they like with there rifle its personal choice.

And the barrel in water again woo hoo, it was fucked away an coming off.

It wouldn't matter if all the facts where there or not people will make up what they want to believe anyway, and if you believe everything on the Internet you not to bright anyway


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Nope.

Abe, I don't know you or the quality (or not) of the guns you build.

But I can honestly say that after watching that vid and some of the things you've posted, I would think twice about buying something you worked on. I just dont get the point of destroying something for no reason, and proving that you can break things...

You might see it differently, I'm just letting you know how a potential customer sees it...

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Ebf horses for courses eh , some people like paying shit loads for a rifle build when you might as well go direct to ssrnz or gunworks and get the job done and save heaps! oh and add in inflated prices for load developement, I can recomend Abe in his work and effort above and beyond and he stands behind his work.

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Ebf horses for courses eh , some people like paying shit loads for a rifle build when you might as well go direct to ssrnz or gunworks and get the job done and save heaps! oh and add in inflated prices for load developement, I can recomend Abe in his work and effort above and beyond and he stands behind his work.

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Slightly calmer than your previous post, jeez people get upset quickly

What a load of shit. How did abe and his buisness get dragged into this?. Fuckin hilarious that no one questioned his gunsmithing skills when he was making a free rifle for a forum member. Ive delt with a couple big names in new zealand gunsmith scene and now i only deal with abe. Nuff sed.

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Tussok where is abes endorsement in all of this? I just quickly scrolled through the whole thing and at the stage of your first post where you ask buisness or circus blahblah, abe hadnt even posted in this thread?.

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Tussok where is abes endorsement in all of this? I just quickly scrolled through the whole thing and at the stage of your first post where you ask buisness or circus blahblah, abe hadnt even posted in this thread?.

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Watch out CD you arnt agreeing with the high and mighty with that post you might get it deleted or worse! They love their pedestal.