Low recoil 7mm SAUM load?

Your right it would do the same thing but that means carrying two rifles on a longer range hunt when i could just back the load off in the SAUM and have two loads for the same rifle (assuming they shoot a similar poi.) If a shot presents itself at 600 in goes the 162 if it's closer and the wife is shooting in goes the 140grn round.

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Originally Posted by No.3

Why not load the .308 with 140gr or even 130gr? Do the same job I would have thought, and probably easier than downloading the SAUM? I dunno, I just don't see the point of having a short mag then hobbling it.

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Yeah, that makes more sense. You'll need to have a play and see if you can get the two loads to shoot to point of aim - I'd suggest finding someone with quickload or the Gordons tool, and seeing if you can get a combo of pills and powder that will have a similar trajectory. It would be really nice to be able to do it with one powder and setting the load amount and having everything just... work, but I suspect your mileage will vary from that! POI will be a headache I'd bet.

Greetings,
Going to a lighter pill and a lighter charge of faster powder might be worth considering. Both will lower recoil.
GPM.

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Originally Posted by No.3

Yeah, that makes more sense. You'll need to have a play and see if you can get the two loads to shoot to point of aim - I'd suggest finding someone with quickload or the Gordons tool, and seeing if you can get a combo of pills and powder that will have a similar trajectory. It would be really nice to be able to do it with one powder and setting the load amount and having everything just... work, but I suspect your mileage will vary from that! POI will be a headache I'd bet.

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Thanks il have a look into that Gordon's tool. I found that my old rem mag did it well. It shot 150 grain corelokts into the bullseye and 162 reloads 1.5 inches higher so worked out real well. Hopefully this is similar

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Originally Posted by Nick.m

Unsure mate, I hadn't even thought about game kings. Will look into them.

I tried some RL 23 last week behind the 162s for a test and 59.5g pushed them along at 2839 fps but still a fair amount of recoil. I'm happy with the recoil but want the wife to also be able to shoot at times. So need to try one of these lighter projectiles and maybe back the charge off a little.

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160gr SPBT gamekings loaded at 2800. Use them on everything. Accurate and at that velocity mild recoil. Kills game animals the old school way, an entrance and exit to bleed out and plenty of damage in between. Cheap and zero copper fouling in my 7mm saum barrel.

You can go below the recommended start loads

Try
154gr sp ar2209 50gr for about 2750fps

You can go as low as 75% of capacity. IIRC So down to abt 45gr

You can go below the recommended start loads

Try
154gr sp ar2209 50gr for about 2750fps

You can go as low as 75% of capacity. So down to abt 45gr

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Originally Posted by Nick.m

Roughly what I was thinking.. speed won't be an issue at all as it wont be used at extended ranges. I don't have 2217 on hand just rl26, 23 and superformance. But could defintely try track some down.

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Just noticed, you seem to only have very slow powders. I'm not familiar with superperfomance.

Your better off with faster powders for reduced loads.

2209 or perhaps 2208.

Greetings,
Hodgdon published reduced loads for the 7mm SAUM and H4895 (AR2206H) using 39.5 grains with the 120 and 130 grain projectiles. These produced 2,595 fps at 31,000 PSI and 2,500 fps at32,200 PSI respectively. I would not reduce any other powder below published start load data in the 7mm SAUM case, especially the slower powders.
GPM.

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Originally Posted by Nick.m

With consideration I am still thinking of selling my 260rem to contribute towards more toys (thermal).

It's been a great rifle with low recoil which has been great for the wife. The reality is that I have my 308 for the bush work and 7mm SAUM for open country so the 260 probably won't get used if i keep it, so looking for ideas on a low recoil load for the 7mm, shooting will be under 400 probably less.

Any ideas? Thinking the likes of a 140grn Ballistic tip.

Cheers

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Make the rifle heavier.

Bolt it into a properly designed chassis like a KRG, your felt recoil will decrease. Don't listen to the hold the forend and use a shooting sling crowd. It's 2025 not 1906.

Otherwise it's like trying to make a V8 more fuel efficient and lower emissions. Even if you achieve your goal, you ruin what made it good to start with.


Don't bother.

Perhaps the easiest solution is to keep the .260 as your wife likes it.

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Originally Posted by caberslash

Make the rifle heavier.

Don't listen to the hold the forend and use a shooting sling crowd. It's 2025 not 1906.. Even if you achieve your goal, you ruin what made it good to start with.


Don't bother.

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Interesting......advice for a rifle that more than likely was CHOSEN as lighter carry rifle to begin with.... Your "conclusion" goes both ways.

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Originally Posted by caberslash

Make the rifle heavier.

Bolt it into a properly designed chassis like a KRG, your felt recoil will decrease. Don't listen to the hold the forend and use a shooting sling crowd. It's 2025 not 1906.

Otherwise it's like trying to make a V8 more fuel efficient and lower emissions. Even if you achieve your goal, you ruin what made it good to start with.


Don't bother.

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First hand I have a saum in the same stock around the same weight holding the foreend makes a huge difference

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Originally Posted by Oldbloke

Just noticed, you seem to only have very slow powders. I'm not familiar with superperfomance.

Your better off with faster powders for reduced loads.

2209 or perhaps 2208.

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Hi,
A bit of info for you.
ADI tell you in their manual you can reduce loads to 75% of capacity. Any powder. The info I gave is good info, NOT BS.
The attached is out of the ADI manual. Pt 20.

It is not specific to AR2206H. That is 60% of max load where it is used in their data.

Sorry, duplicate post