Interested to hear your opinions and reasoning on the following...
Would you rather spend $$ on a flash harry chrony, or would you buy a kestrel and calculate MV based on observed drops and atmospherics ?
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Interested to hear your opinions and reasoning on the following...
Would you rather spend $$ on a flash harry chrony, or would you buy a kestrel and calculate MV based on observed drops and atmospherics ?
get both:thumbsup:
use someone elses flash chrony. simple.
Kestrel and drops
i like the way you think, club has an Oehler hidden somewhere... we just need to do a massive cleanup and find it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
but dont shoot it or u will own itQuote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
I always confirm no matter what my chrony says. Especially for the change of seasons.
I'm am still waiting for a more reliable setup to measure velocity that is affordable.
In saying that my CED2 is close enough for my needs. Just a pain if there is a bit of wind.
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I have an oehler that gets used fuck all, and then only for early stages of load development and ballistic data, and I have a Kestrel that comes with me every time I use a rifle.
I'm still happy I have both but if I had to pick one it would be the kestrel.
Since I dont access to a range longer than 200 metres then I only go off my base zero and average chrony readings so I cant shoot at anything further out and physically measure drops.. and thats why I use a ballistic program to help.
Kestrel or wind meter only helps left to right but is still an essential tool
Scoped, kestrel helps for a lot more than windage....
Play around a bit in a ballistics program and see what temp, elevation and air pressure does to your click values. Beyond 500yds it gets significant enough to matter.
I have access to the Tararuas, several 6,7,8,9 & 1000yds ranges within walking distance :D
isnt it easier to just zero and chrony your load and input the atmospherics in automatically through shooter on your iphone etc? and verify if theres any difference by shooting at a known long range and seeing if its bang on/close/miles off? or am i doing it the hard way as always haha
Ardave, the process you mention is very good, it just wasn't an option in ebf first post in this thread where he asks a very specific question about two components.Quote:
Originally Posted by ARdave
And to answer your question, yes your way is easier and often requires less ammo, less ammo used to get the desired poi at distance as a chrony will get you very close to poi with your first few shots
ah i see - cheers mate :)
Kinda depends on the distances you test at, as well as the accuracy of the chrony, no ?Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
I think the vast majority of guys test at ranges of 200m or less. Not optimal for confirming LR drops.
Also, unless you spend serious $$ and are every careful about setup, I am not sure how accurate the average chrony is.
If your drops don't correspond to what the calculated trajectory for chrony MV is, which variable do you change ? MV, atmospherics or both ?
You change the unknown.
So if you have say a litz bc and accurate atmospherics you won't be changing them change velocity.
If you were using a bullet of unknown bc and had a pretty accurate velocity you would change bc to suit drop.
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When I started rechecking my data with a Steinert it was often out by up to 65 FPS over the crony data. I have been using a Kestral for a while but the more accurate MV data from the Steinert has allowed me to get more consistent hits on steel out to 900. So I was still missing even with good atmospheric data. Old story garbage in garbage out.
So you rate the super chrony Herb?
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I shot my shooting chrony so I bought a magnetospeed. haven't actually used it yet cos I am waiting for the pinnacle of bolt action rifle design to arrive at my door
Are you coming to the DARKSIDE as well gimp?
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I'm already there, in more ways than oneQuote:
Originally Posted by R93
If its a hot humid day and you're up higher than the area that you zero'd in, any of those things bring your velocity up. You might actually be looking at real variations and not errors!Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbmiester
Probably the best use for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
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Originally Posted by veitnamcam
It seemed to work okay, never really had a problem in the.. 6-7 years? that I had it. It just ended up getting in the way of a .223 round
Mine works ok..... plus or minus 80 od fps depending on the day and light.
Ok if you have a known validated load you can shoot as well and add or subtract error of that off test load.
I always tried to just use it in bright direct sunlight for consistency's sake
I've got a Magneto-speed V2. I've had a few chronographs and none are as handy, consistently accurate, and dependable in the recording arena in my view. Can't say the same for my Kestrel 4500NV. Here's what I said of that in another shooting site. I have a Kestrel 4500, but it worked for about a month before I returned it to the factory for repairs. I managed another month with it before it failed again and it's been that way for over a year now. I've emailed Kestrel--at three different addresses one coming off from this website--all I get are ads from them concerning stuff I have no interest in. Now I'm getting aggressive and will get this thing to operate. Which I think means Kestrel will replace this obviously substandard unit.
However, the real reason for this reply is a new piece of equipment that I now use--and recommend instead of any Kestrel--the Skywatch Windoo 3. It's Swiss made and you can tell it's well made. More importantly, it works, and all the time. It's half a thumb length and a thumb's diameter. No Bluetooth connection--as yet--but it's instantaneous, accurate, and dependable. I got it off Amazon for $114; it does wind, wind direction, BP, temp, WB, and SP. Check this out: Skywatch Windoo :: Global specifications