Hi guys,
Im newish to reloading , I was watching youtube today and this guy sprayed silcone spray on the cases instead of using the lube tray and lube. Is this addvisable and safe?
As it seems a good way to speed up the process.
Many Thanks.
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Hi guys,
Im newish to reloading , I was watching youtube today and this guy sprayed silcone spray on the cases instead of using the lube tray and lube. Is this addvisable and safe?
As it seems a good way to speed up the process.
Many Thanks.
Best case lube is redding sizing wax, and a little goes a long way
The convenient spray on lubes will give you a stuck case sooner or later and at the very least due to lower lubricating capabilities add extra effort required to the sizing processes.
Redding sizing wax on a cotton bud is a very efficient way to lube the inside of case necks, putting the product exactly where you want it and no where else
The redding product is also a perfect addition to the external surfaces on brass shoulders when fire forming, it gives much sharper formed shoulders and cases extremely close to fully formed internal capacity.
Steer clear of water soluble formulations as again they lack lubricity compared to the redding product and all of your fingerprints/product left on your dies and reloading equipment will cause surface rust.
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Thanks 7mmsaum for the great advice.
I too am loading my first rifle ....done millions of pistol loads , straight walled , no shoulders , carbide dies etc etc .... lubing every single stinking case , and sizing and removing crimps and champfering ... for rifle , yee gods , what a pain I just want to pull the press and have lots and lots of completed bullets ....kinda is fun though, but when you have 2000+ 223 cases , it gets a little tedious
I use neatsfoot oil and a stamp pad for the outside of my pistol and rifle cases. A little goes a long way.
I have been using lanolin for years.A little goes a very long way. Can be diluted with white spirits or alcohol.
Neck sizing - Hornady One Shot spray (the aerosol one), Angle spray so that the inside of neck is also lubed. I use a wooden loading block that only has the necks showing. One Shot just loves plastic trays ha ha.
FLSing - Stamp Pad and any of the good liquid lube oils. I use Lyman. Small wipe with same oil on cotton bud inside necks.
Case Forming - There is only 1 lube and I use Imperial Sizing Wax.
Hornady One Shot needs minimal clean up. DON'T BE TEMPTED TO USE IT FOR FLSING.
I keep clear of any water based lubes - snake oil - apart from potential corrosion issues they just don't posses the lubrication qualities of the likes of Imperial.
I have used my first can of one shot and justed cracked the second last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
I came up with a cunning plan of spraying the neck up in the block from 4 directions but then to get the lube to the bottom where its needed i put another tray on top and flipped it over so they were upside down and sprayed their bums!
Worked a treat and the brass was really smooth through the press so just a bit of lateral thinking has done the trick.
I rate the stuff personally and wilk be putting my third can into stock soon!
Bro how do u have time with the wee sprogletts now ? By the way can you speed up the NZFS server its Fing slow and im over it......Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpy
Have also used for neck sizing Imperial Dry Neck Lube or just plain graphite powder and they are both effective. They tend to be a bit grubby though and like handling moly you end up with black marks on your white shirt, the light switches, the basin in the bathroom........
dillon case lube, spray on. Brilliant when you use it but not so good if you forget, eh
I 2nd this, diluted with ethyl alcohol, good luck finding some, lay all my brass in a plastic bin lid and spray just the necks. Never have any troubleQuote:
Originally Posted by Driverman
I use motor oil.
I use Imperial wax, but I have used wd40 when "desperate".
PS on my current usage one tin looks to do 5000 rounds which at $20 a pop isnt a huge cost.
Stick with your Imperial - I wouldn't recommend WD40. Despite what the maker may claim it is low in lubrication qualities. Might as well use kero instead of WD40:PQuote:
Originally Posted by steven
I do give my die internals a blast with WD40 though when I have finished a loading session. I never used to do anything and then found corrosion (probably from fingers handling cases during seating) inside my 308 Comp die :pissed off:
I have been using one shot. Had 5 stuck out of 78 on Sunday. Got them out but they had a dent in the neck taper ??? F Knows. All previous have been good. Used dies not my own so bought new ones today.
Got told put 50 in a shopping bag spray them close bag shake it a bit let stand for a minute and even spread has occurred. Ill try it next lot .....
If you are going to use One Shot for FLSing best invest in a stuck case remover. The other thing with One Shot is u must make sure it has dried before sizing.
No just neck sizing but no one said anything about drying. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
Just take 7mmsaum's advice and get a tin of Imperial sizing wax, since ive been using it, never had a problem with a stuck case, prior to the imperial i did.
One little pot basically lasts forever, great value and is the best IMO.
vasoline gets the tick from me....just a smear on your fingers and twirl case in them does job well, rub finger over case mouth leaves wee tad in there to assist that bit too.
I use the Dillion spray for 223 cases when FL, i would put 50 into a bag then spray and shake. Necking I only use Graphite powder.
And for big cases I use Imperial wax
I just use the RCBS case lube ( I also have a tube of some really old lyman case lube that has lanolin in it) that I got with my reloading kit along with the lube pad does the job for me and I also have a small container of graphite with some lead shot in it I dip my case necks into it to lube the inside of the necks
wd40 cheap and works awesome
when you have resized and trimmed put them in the tumbler for a while clean shiny ready to reload
I now use ISW for the serious stuff but prior to that happily used One Shot spray. Never once had a stuck case with it -but- it's a wasteful application process and more messy. The secret to avoiding stuck cases is a shallow block and to shoot down on them at about 30 degrees to make sure some gets inside the necks. You then carefully rotate the whole tray and do the other side.
As for post-sizing brass cleaning, it pays to remove most of the lube, else your media ages quickly. I do this by tossing them into a brushed cotton shirt sleeve and pouring a bit of turps on it. Rolling them round at random angles for about 20 secs gets it all off ready for the tumbler.
I've looked at the wax but thought it would be messy to apply. Putting some on a cotton bud for the inside of the neck and then smearing some on the outside. Wouldn't a spray be easier? One squirt on an angle would get both the inside and outside of the necks??Quote:
Originally Posted by GWH
I use long life spray. Seems to work well.
Never had any issues.
lube the first few with imp wax then 1 every 3 or 4, run your waxed finger over the lip to get a little "peel" off into the inside every 5 or so. I think 1 wax will do 8000 rounds a the rate I am going...
Get bushing dies, little wipe of vasoline And your done, nothing on inside if it worrys you
Wipe with rag if wanted after sizing
I use the spray can version of "one shot" Put them In a plastic container (plastic coleslaw or margarine) standing up and then just spray over the whole lot on an angle
I then size and later run them through a media tumbler.
NEVER EVER use the "pump spray one shot"
It's completely different product than the spray can version and will result in stuck cases
I've full length sized many thousands of cases this way using the spray cans with never having had a stuck case
I normally give a good spray then let stand for a couple of minutes and then give another light spray just before I size
I couldn't be bothered with the old fashioned way of lubeing
Forgot to add that if your neck sizing the full up a pill bottle with powdered graphite available from any hardware store, and dip the necks in, tap off the extra graphite and then neck size as normal
A bit dirty but works a treat
Anyone tested 'CRC Dry Glide with PTFE' for resizing ? It would be an interesting option if it works well.
7mmsaum put me onto the Imperial die wax a few years ago, never looked back, prior to that i had issues with stuck cases or dented shoulders thru over-lubing.
All of those issues have gone away now that im using the Imperial die wax, and it does basically last forever, its surprizing how little you actually need on a case.
Where on case do 'you' apply it and with what do 'you' apply it?Quote:
Originally Posted by GWH
With your fingers and everywhereQuote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Cotton bud inside neck and Bobs ya uncle
I just use graphite powder if only neck sizing
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