That's good alright. Blew the legs clean off that right hand one.
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What twist rate are you pushing them through? Their web site shows 1-7
Manufacturersdo some smaller ones that would stabilize in old school twist 24 calibres. None here yet though
Have shot them through a few different 1:8's just fine. I think they will be OK in 1:9's too though I don't have one to check.
They can penetrate. Through the paunch and exit. 100 yds.
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62 grn Maker/.223 275 yards. Low crease shot. Red Spiker. Ran 50 odd yards. Dead on its feet. No blood trail.
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Looks like it still opened up ok?
I would say so looking at that heart.
And here's a doe's lung from last evening too. Quartering towards me. 145 yards. Bullet punched out through the paunch.
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I’d interested in the 7mm 150gn T-Rex if you’re bringing in another order @Pommy
Yep, PM me with your details and I'll put what you want on the list.
The insides of this deer:
Under the shoulder (entry).
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Inside, entry.
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Exit
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seems they work ok
Well I tried loading some 62gr up for my 223.
Turns out i must have a dud batch. A bunch of them have a rough finish and when seated in the case are loose and will spin easily in the neck, but they wont pull back out.
I mic'd them and it shows they are 0.001" wider at the base (top of boattail) than at their seated point.
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When i checked seating depth i had grabbed a "good one". When seating on powder the first was good, the next 5 were duds. I felt them drop past the neck and then go loose. Pretty fckn disappointed as i was wanting to go shoot them.
I tried removing a lee collet neck die mandrel and squishing them tight, bit no luck.
Dunno what thats about. Sounds random. When I collected mine from Ammo Direct they were counted out of a large bulk lot of maybe a thousand or so and they all look good (100).
So Ive got 2 lots. 50 I mentioned that came out of a bulk lot that I collected, and 50 that were posted to me. Ive measured several from each lot and they are consistently .223 at your (Roarless20's) measuring points.
Ive hand loaded about 40 of these and never had a problem with the bullets being loose. OAL 2.309" Mixed FL sized brass.
They shoot about .75" consistently (several 3 and 4 shot groups over time). 25grns BM2
It seems about half are duds. I can feel the machining rings on the duds with my finger nail, with a pronounced lip at the boatail.
The good pills are smooth like an other brand projectiles.
I cant understand how such a small amount in variance can make a difference. I wouldn't think the little machining edge at the base (the odd one of mine have it) will effect anything (its a soft gliding metal), and mine are the same measurement under the ogive as Roarless's and are quite tight in the case neck.
Not doubting Roarless at all, just wondering if there is another reason for the loose projectiles?
I have spoken with supplier and will return them so they an see the problem and they will refund me.
@Tahr of 50 prep'd cases all done the same at same time. Amp annealed and sized, 40 got 75gr eldm all mint, some (5) maker were good, other 5 were crap. I even resized the neck to about 0.020" under size and the dud projectiles still ended up loose.
On inspecting the packet of 50 projectiles 25 are duds. The only issue going on are the projectiles.
176 yards. 62 grn (.223).
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Entrence
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Bullet was just sitting under here
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Entrance through ribs with shoulder off. The bullet angled from this heart region right through the gut bag and you can see how the gut contents sort of hydronic'd back through the cavity. Vicious.
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Thats a great looking expanded bullet!
What velocity is it leaving the muzzle?
3100. They seem to have an expansion threshold of about 2000fps. That gets me out to 400 yds using a BC of .3
I shot a thumping red spiker at 330 yds and they worked ok. Pass through - maybe 'cos less expansion?.
@gimp?