Thread: No more powder

Nope not at all - point I'm trying to make is that the historic aspect of it means that we cannot sit here judging on what happened in April when Russia sent forces in. There are a huge number of factors that lead up to this, and GPM's comment with regard to the effects of Pelosi's Taiwan visit also hold merit - nothing is done in isolation and after Covid lockdowns etc the US treasury is probably looking a little empty and needing a bit of revenue generated.

I don't subscribe to the 'Russian aggression' lines, but what I do subscribe to is that wasteful actions that are unlikely to succeed should be called out and measures taken to stop them. If Russia had it's crap sorted this discussion and the effects on us as civilians at the far end of a supply chain wouldn't be happening - Russia choosing to go across border at the time they did bit them big time straight in the bum and the effects of that piss poor decision making process are what is making the supply chain crunches we are seeing now with ammo, components etc. Really no other way to look at it that I can see from the NZ consumer point of view, everything is more expensive because of Russia's mistakes in how they chose to tackle the Ukraine issue.

Originally Posted by No.3

Nope not at all - point I'm trying to make is that the historic aspect of it means that we cannot sit here judging on what happened in April when Russia sent forces in. There are a huge number of factors that lead up to this, and GPM's comment with regard to the effects of Pelosi's Taiwan visit also hold merit - nothing is done in isolation and after Covid lockdowns etc the US treasury is probably looking a little empty and needing a bit of revenue generated.

I don't subscribe to the 'Russian aggression' lines, but what I do subscribe to is that wasteful actions that are unlikely to succeed should be called out and measures taken to stop them. If Russia had it's crap sorted this discussion and the effects on us as civilians at the far end of a supply chain wouldn't be happening - Russia choosing to go across border at the time they did bit them big time straight in the bum and the effects of that piss poor decision making process are what is making the supply chain crunches we are seeing now with ammo, components etc. Really no other way to look at it that I can see from the NZ consumer point of view, everything is more expensive because of Russia's mistakes in how they chose to tackle the Ukraine issue.

Interesting points. I still can see that Ukraine were planning to join Nato and then to attack Crimea and the Donbass ( with more fervor). Russia has pre-empted a war that was going to happen anyway.
I dont see Russia running out of ammo, much of what has been sent by the west to Ukraine has been destroyed by Russia firing hypersonic missiles across Ukraine and destroying warehouses full of munitions.

The effects of this are not good for the West, we are already drained from the pandemic. We will likely see rampant inflation and a collapse of our fiat currencies possibly combined with a world power shift and a war with China, who knows how it will play out, but I do know that the West should be negotiating piece and not promoting war by - sending in arms and training troops