Ok 6mm guys, let's go!

Right you 6mm fellas and fallasses? (Pretty sure that's a word) which 6mm owner is the superior human being?

I have heard there are some 6mm dasher owners, but I have never seen one in the wild,

You 6br guys have been on the 6mm bandwagon longer than most, you the top dogs?, keep in mind your rifle should work on the ground, not just a bench.

6x47 lapua? Sounds exotic, if you aren't currently riding your Ducati or eating some biscotti make yourselves known.

.243 ? You guys got one because your grandfather had one aye?

6 Creedmoor? I'll be honest with you guys, I don't care how bad the traffic is in Auckland, keep to the topic.

Long action/magnum 6mm team? I bet your v8 is great and your offroader is sick, no I don't know why your wife left you.

Other 6mm wildcatters, if you can dumb it down for us normies it would be appreciated.

Any other 6mm descriptions are welcome in the comments

6.5 guys, so last week.....

**if you are offended you are taking this too seriously

Well now we have that out of the way, I have a dream. A .243AI feeding from a long action to make the most of the deck 6mm 100+gr eld pills. Pity I have a short action.....

I currently have a t3 .243 all dolled up and its shooting great. Can I out-shoot it yet, no. Do I want bigger/better/faster, of course. I currently have 1000+rounds on the first shortened barrel, and was thinking of shooting the next 500-1000.as .243ai, I have a newfound interest and places I can shoot long now. Is there such a gain in the AI? It looks the part (which I'm sure is at least 50% of the outcome). Or should I use up the rest of the barrels life as is and rechamber in anything but 6mm Creedmoor? I plan on target shooting up to 1000m, and taking the odd critter for the freezer.

Thoughts?

Thanks Lars

You have a T3, get a long mag and bolt stop. build a 6mm06, you get 6mm Weatherby performance on cases easy to get or make. I think Trueflite have a reamer. I run a .243 and kill stuff dead. Not cause my granpappy had one, might be cause I am a granpappy. Ai is dumb.

243ai would be cool in a long action tikka for a hunting type setup
Other wise 6mm Creedmoor. Im a massive fan proud of it
Own 4
Hands down best cartridge haha


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Thoughts??? I think you clearly have too kuch time on your hands.... but I like your sense of humour.

6mm?? Nah. I've converted to 7mm.

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243 for me it just works

Ive owned, shot and build several 243 Ackleys - unbelievable LR calibre. Normally with 28 to 33" heavy Varmint barrels.

When I started competing in PRS/NRL compititions I got talked into a 6 Dasher(still have a few), later I switched over to 6mm Creedmoor. (One of the responders on this thread owns one of several Creeds I've build.) The creedmoor just works.

In my opinion the 6 Creed is right on the 243AIs doorstep in regards to performance.

Its a personal choice thing. I'll always have a 243AI in my save. It just looks the deal.

6mm ackley job done :thumbsup:

The standard 6mm Remington is hard to beat I am on my third one also have a 6mmBR another must have, Could be 6mmCM around the corner.

@Wingman....I believe you have the little brother with huge performance.....

Yeah the 6mm is pretty good for shooting LR rabbits and hares and is a good step up from a 22 cal centrefire.

If you want decent power at distance for bigger stuff 7mm is where its at, if your sexuality is questionable then 6.5mm may be more applicable.

Now in all seriousness, any of those 6mm cartridges you mention from 6-47L and bigger with a fast twist barrel so you can shoot a bullet like a 108 eld would be perfect.

Is your 243 barrel a fast enough twist to make best use of the extra capacity of AI to push heavy for cal bullets. Most factory 243s are too slow in twist rate for 100gr plus.

:wtfsmilie:

If this is of any interest to you...
https://www.6mmbr.com/varmint.html

Im currently running a 6mm dasher and a 6x45 Rem.. have owned in the past several 6mmBRs, .243 Win, 6mm grendel and a 6mmPPC.
I have the .243 AI reamer that I must use some day, only worth while in a 1-8" twist IMO. @Flyblown sent me an interesting quickload chart comparing the 6mm Creedmoor .243AI 6mmDasher and 6x47 Lapua I think it was that was very interesting. I ended up choosing to build the dasher over the others as it really keeps up with amazing efficiency. Flyblown, if you are not stuck in Auckland traffic or queuing for your soy latte in a glass, drop that chart here mate if you still have it..
Personally not a big fan of the current 6mm hunting bullets available, the best I have found is the 95gr Nosler BT which I run in my Dasher through a 1-9" Shilen tube

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243 for me it just works

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Iv run one for years on fallow, reds, goats, tahr, pigs and what ever else pokes it's head out and everything's gone down like proverbial sack of potatoes

It's by no means exciting but it's low recoil and zaps stuff far harder than than a 223
I run a factory kimber 243 and can't fault it

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Originally Posted by Wingman

Im currently running a 6mm dasher and a 6x45 Rem.. have owned in the past several 6mmBRs, .243 Win, 6mm grendel and a 6mmPPC.
I have the .243 AI reamer that I must use some day, only worth while in a 1-8" twist IMO. @Flyblown sent me an interesting quickload chart comparing the 6mm Creedmoor .243AI 6mmDasher and 6x47 Lapua I think it was that was very interesting. I ended up choosing to build the dasher over the others as it really keeps up with amazing efficiency. Flyblown, if you are not stuck in Auckland traffic or queuing for your soy latte in a glass, drop that chart here mate if you still have it..
Personally not a big fan of the current 6mm hunting bullets available, the best I have found is the 95gr Nosler BT which I run in my Dasher through a 1-9" Shilen tube

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Try the 95VLD ( Targex similar) and shoot them in the chest, big Reds, bull Tahr and Fallow drop on the spot, not had one go more than 5m. 90 and 105 Speer Hot Cor, the Speer 100 Grandslam are decent killers, lots of useful .243 bullets about for standard twist rates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EUBWwky2j0

I actually kind of agree @Wingman. As we have discussed there is a paucity of 6mm bullets in the high BC 105-110gr range that one could describe as a hunting bullet ideal for our typical thin-skinned medium game. You seen the outcomes of the 108gr ELD-M on deer and goats 200-400m, whilst they’ve been knocking everything over no problem there’s slightly nagging doubt that the bullet is tough enough to deal with a full on hit to the humerus bone.

But with that said my point of aim is for the high shoulder so if it’s hitting on the leg bone it means I’m too low.

I haven’t tried the 103 grain ELDX yet, lots of reports that it’s a very finicky bullet. The TGK Gamechanger is probably too tough for lung shots that miss the scapula (the ELD-M is perfect for this). Though now Sierra has produced 100 grain version of the TGK I am tempted to try it especially as they seem to have come down a lot in price. What would be nice is a Nosler BT in the 105gr range, with a suitable BC but with that classic heavy base that the ELD-M doesn’t have. Frangible in the top half but capable of pushing right through.

Anyway our new friend in the Northland needn’t worry about pink gin sipping Jafas, he’ll have this Lion Brown swilling wannabe shepherd to worry about if he carries on with that malarkey. Anyway, soon enough he’ll work out he’s got bigger problems than Creedmoor shooters, when he realises he hasn’t got anything decent to shoot with his .243AI where he lives.

;)

Look at 6-284 - Easily done from 6.5-284 Brass.

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Try the 95VLD ( Targex similar) and shoot them in the chest, big Reds, bull Tahr and Fallow drop on the spot, not had one go more than 5m. 90 and 105 Speer Hot Cor, the Speer 100 Grandslam are decent killers, lots of useful .243 bullets about for standard twist rates.

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Yup, I’d shoot those in a 10” twist .243, maybe not the Berger cos I don’t like them but anyway, where they fall down for longer range is BC. The whole point of the fast twist and longer throat is to allow for the length of the high BC bullets, when you run the numbers on the retained thwop! at the business end, there’s no comparison at say 350-400m. All this you know already of course...

The traditional .243 bullets generally run in the 0.350 - 0.375 range, whereas the current crop of 105-110gr bullets run mid- 0.500s. The difference in the field is massive. Like you can hear it. I’ve been shooting .243 since I was a spotty twerp, these new bullets in the fast twist barrels hit waaayyy harder. THWOP!

Apparently the 6mm GT (Gay Tiger, I kid you not !) is where it is at.

Seeing several 6 Creeds turn up at field comps.

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Iv run one for years on fallow, reds, goats, tahr, pigs and what ever else pokes it's head out and everything's gone down like proverbial sack of potatoes

It's by no means exciting but it's low recoil and zaps stuff far harder than than a 223
I run a factory kimber 243 and can't fault it

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+1

The 243 has some of the 223’s advantages like low recoil and a flat trajectory, but has a lot more down range energy. The 223 has its place for small game and knocking over the odd meat animal, but if you want something purely for deer, 6mm all day long...

I run a 6XC, 22-250 case with improved shoulder.
Very efficient case with 2209 and firing 107smk, ive had it out to 1100meters so far on steel and taken goats at 630meters with it.
Built on a tikka action with a kreiger 1in8 barrel.

Thinking about building a 6BR of some sort.

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What are your thoughts and experiences with 85 gr Interbonds in a plain old 243?
Been using 100 gr Interlocks with good enough results, but thinking of trying the Interbonds. Only seem to come in 85 grains though.

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Yes they are designed for 10" twist any heavier and they would be to long to stabilise same with all the GMX and copper alloy projectiles.

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What are your thoughts and experiences with 85 gr Interbonds in a plain old 243?
Been using 100 gr Interlocks with good enough results, but thinking of trying the Interbonds. Only seem to come in 85 grains though.

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Excellent if you can get them to shoot. I had great success with them out to 400 yards. They make a hell of a hole. I used hybrid100v in my standard 20" .243 for great velocity and accuracy.

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Apparently the 6mm GT (Gay Tiger, I kid you not !) is where it is at.

Seeing several 6 Creeds turn up at field comps.

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Is that a rebadged creedmore

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Is that a rebadged creedmore

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Nope, it's kinda between 6BR and 6x47, so quite a bit shorter than the Creed.

35 degree shoulder

And apparently good with Varget/2208, so similar SDs to the BR

And of course the Criterion prefit 243 barrel is 7.5” twist which is what I’ve popped on the Bergara. Funny old world where the choice of 243 is contrary!

@Uplandstalker can testify how good the Criterion prefit 6mm is, he's running a 6XC

As mentioned, I have 6XC with a pre fit barrel. Anything will actually do what's needed. The key thing is what projectile and in turn, what twist rate. To get the most out if the case, need to be shooting the heavier (>105gn) projectiles. A 7 or 7.5 twist is what I would recommend. This give the option of running the 110gn SMK's etc.

In my XC, 1:7.5 twist, running 110gn SMK at 3142fps and seems to work very well if I do my part right!

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Only 8gr difference in bullet weight.

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