Yip I remember those from the 80s. Older bro used them for a bit. Same time period the Alaskan were made.Vulcan??? Comes to mind for some reason.i remember question n answer about Norma of the time using ?guilding?? Metal as projectiles casing. Still way softer than barrel so no issues was guts of reply. They work well I believe,was long time ago lol
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