Thread: Other powders for 30 06 springfield

Following as nephew is taking delivery of a 30.06 soon

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

to be seen back up for sale at a forum near you soon........... tick....tock...tick....tock

@Blackfern
I bought a sako finnbear

I see your gesturing Im your #1 fan.........

Originally Posted by dannyb

Here is a comparison from hodgdon's load data for 180gn pills between superformance and staball 6.5 in the dirty 06

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Seems staball gets ever so slightly better velocity for less powder, granted slightly higher pressure (to be expected).

What sort of granules are the Staball? The SP measures out really nice and packs in case neatly so not compressed.

Interesting with all the Internet debates on various new cals, the numbers look pretty good on the old '06 to hit pretty hard and get job done!

Originally Posted by jackson21

What sort of granules are the Staball? The SP measures out really nice and packs in case neatly so not compressed.

Interesting with all the Internet debates on various new cals, the numbers look pretty good on the old '06 to hit pretty hard and get job done!

It is a ball powder like superformance

Im using 2217 in my 6.5 06 not sure if thats any good in 30 06

Originally Posted by blip

Im using 2217 in my 6.5 06 not sure if thats any good in 30 06

Apparently it can go ok, but likewise to mickducks suggestion I cannot lay my hands on any 2217

Originally Posted by dannyb

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@Blackfern
I bought a sako finnbear

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Looks like a very nice original finnbear. Hard to find these days.

Just looked over Nathan Fosters notes on the 30/06 (he’s a huge fan of the cartridge) and his recommendations are 2209 for 150-168gr pills, and superformance for the 178’s and heavier. Burn rate about the same as 2213sc, but higher bulk density so you can pack a healthy dose in there.

And screw the haters @dannyb have fun with it!

@Hunter_Nick Ive said it before..if didnt already own a .270w I would own either a .30/06 or a .308 cant give them higher praise than that.... and yip something really heavy in 06 would be a LOT of fun in the bush....

Originally Posted by Hunter_Nick

Just looked over Nathan Fosters notes on the 30/06 (he’s a huge fan of the cartridge) and his recommendations are 2209 for 150-168gr pills, and superformance for the 178’s and heavier. Burn rate about the same as 2213sc, but higher bulk density so you can pack a healthy dose in there.

And screw the haters @dannyb have fun with it!

Yup have read Nathan Fosters stuff, that's partly why I'm intersested to see how the staball goes. Its similar to SF but temp stable.
Haha don't worry have never been overly concerned about haters (I'm sure there's a few out there....can't please em all)

lgs had a parker hale 30 06 with its iron sights on it still and scope for $300 nearly came home with it but I've got enough already.

Danny I have been playing around with Staball 6.5 and the new Staball HD which has a burn rate like AR 2225. Staball 6.5 will do what 2209 will do maybe even slightly better.
I have tried it in several of my rifles with good results. Accuracy has been good too. I have a 20 inch suppressed Ruger American and have been loading the Hornady 180 gr SP with 56.5 grs of Staball 6.5 and ended with an average velocity of 2687 fps which isn't to bad for a 20 inch barrel. My load is a little under max so there is wiggle room there.
If you can get try some, you will notice after firing the barrel looks dirty but as far as I know this is something to do with the copper retardent in the powder. I like it a lot its good in 243, 22 250, 30 06, 303, 6.5x55, 270 etc.

Originally Posted by Mooseman

Danny I have been playing around with Staball 6.5 and the new Staball HD which has a burn rate like AR 2225. Staball 6.5 will do what 2209 will do maybe even slightly better.
I have tried it in several of my rifles with good results. Accuracy has been good too. I have a 20 inch suppressed Ruger American and have been loading the Hornady 180 gr SP with 56.5 grs of Staball 6.5 and ended with an average velocity of 2687 fps which isn't to bad for a 20 inch barrel. My load is a little under max so there is wiggle room there.
If you can get try some, you will notice after firing the barrel looks dirty but as far as I know this is something to do with the copper retardent in the powder. I like it a lot its good in 243, 22 250, 30 06, 303, 6.5x55, 270 etc.

Excellent....i will pick some up

nice rifle by the way, you should get a bit more velocity than me with the longer barrel too.