Thread: overlap between cartridges

Greetings @Micky Duck and @blip,
The reason we have so may new and near duplicate cartridges is because new and different sells. Very few of the new wonder cartridges that have sprouted like weeds over the last few decades offer anything much over older cartridges. In the US the reluctance to use faster twists in existing cartridges has also been a factor until recently. The reason that the US has produced so many cartridges that more or less duplicate continental loadings of older cartridges is a chronic disdain for things not invented in the US. The gaps between cartridges has become so wafer thin, if it exists at all, that most Wildcats produce fail to produce any improvement unless they are loaded to eye watering pressures. I sometimes talk of an "a what" cartridge. This is where the proud owner announces the chambering of his latest bang stick (and possibly mumbling a bit) to which his audience replies "A what?"
Regards Grandpamac.

Good thread : it does seem that alot of the newer hunters with the advent of the internet clips & podcasts of all the "new " calibres : get caught up in the hype of " 50 fps faster " here & "1.5 inches flatter at 500m " there .... Americans are sooo good at hyping up a tiny difference to sell " bigger,better, faster , must have" new rifles that need new ammo, new scopes & rings , new reloading dies .
Otherwise ; how else do you get gun owners that probably have 6+ guns each to buy more gear?

Greetings All,
It is going to be interesting to see what happens over the next 20 years or so (especially for those that are likely to live that long). The ranks of 6, 6.5 and 7mm cartridges are already packed with .270 and .30 calibre not far behind. Efforts to introduce new .22 and .25 calibre cartridges seem to have gone nowhere. Is there room for a new .22 calibre cartridge between the .223 and the .22-250 with an intermediate capacity and fast twist that would split the difference between the two. I am not talking of a wildcat but a factory offering. It could have a little more mag and neck length to handle a longer pill and fit in the medium bolt face.
Regards Grandpamac.

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Greetings All,
. Is there room for a new .22 calibre cartridge between the .223 and the .22-250 with an intermediate capacity and fast twist that would split the difference between the two. I am not talking of a wildcat but a factory offering. It could have a little more mag and neck length to handle a longer pill and fit in the medium bolt face.
Regards Grandpamac.

and function FLAWLESSLY in a savage rotary magazine or single shot ...hmmmm let me see now????????
that sounds just like.........oh yeah a .22hp Savage but in .224 and possibly blown out a fly shit in shoulder area

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

and function FLAWLESSLY in a savage rotary magazine or single shot ...hmmmm let me see now????????
that sounds just like.........oh yeah a .22hp Savage but in .224 and possibly blown out a fly shit in shoulder area

That was the .225 Winchester. Came out in 1964 and flopped. It had the rim turned down so it would chamber with a standard medium bolt face. A 1 in 14 twist as well. It's short neck and throat would struggle with the longer pills. Getting close though.
GPM.