Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

Alpine Night Vision NZ


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 16
Like Tree13Likes

Thread: Powder Choice, 270 Win with 100gn Projectile

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    The 'Naki
    Posts
    2,480

    Powder Choice, 270 Win with 100gn Projectile

    Ok so I picked up a couple of hundred 100gn bullets for the 270Win, because they were a good price, because I thought I could practice on culling turkeys my mate wants rid of - at a little distance, and of course to obliterate the occasional magpie or harvest a rabbit or hare. Yes, I understand they don't have the BC to support real long-distance shooting, but I reckon 300m with prior ascertained (ethical) accuracy should be feasible.

    Anyway, I'm looking at powder choice, (assuming I can choose), on two main criteria, accuracy and avoiding undue wear on the barrel. I'm not planning to bang out 5 shot consecutive strings and am prepared to let the barrel cool after say 3 shots.

    So here's a list of powders I've culled data for from manufacturers online info. I'm interested particularly in the benefits of a lower volume powder (more shots per cannister), vs higher volume (assuming case fill is an accuracy/consistency issue). Also, the lower volume powders, while dropping a bit on velocity, also drop on pressures. I'm assuming this equals less heat and often less pressure, therefore less wear on the bore and throat. Correct?

    I have a 24" barrel in good nick, suppressed. WIN LR Primers are listed for each load. Only H4350 / AR2209 reaches close enough to 60gn to warrant considering a magnum primer.

    So, of the following list what would be your top three choices and why?

    cheers.

    Hogdon

    CF223 - 53.0gn/3356fps/54900PSI - 55.8gn/3514/62900PSI

    H335 - 41.0gn/3058fps/45300CUP - 43.5gn/3185fps/50200CUP

    H380 - 50.0gn/3160fps/46200CUP - 53.7gn/3274fps/50300CUP

    H4350 - 56.0gn/3258fps/44000CUP - 59.4gn/3401fps/50200CUP

    IMR3031 - 45.5gn/3139fps/44700CUP - 49.0gn/3339fps/50400CUP

    IMR4895 - 48.0gn/3180fps/47900CUP - 52.2gn/3367fps/51500CUP

    IMR4064 - 48.0gn/3116fps/40800CUP - 52.7gn/3380fps/50100CUP

    WIN760 - 53.0gn/3262fps/4600CUP - 56.0gn/3383fps/50700CUP

    ADI

    AR2206H - 47.0gn/3298fps/4700CUP - 50.0gn/3401fps/50200CUP

    AR2208 - 48.0gn/3232fps/47000CUP - 52.0gn/3397fps/50200CUP

    AR2209 - 56.0gn/3258fps/44000CUP - 59.4gn/3401fps/50200CUP
    I know a lot but it seems less every day...

  2. #2
    Caretaker
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Hawkes Bay
    Posts
    9,265
    2217
    A big fast bullet beats a little fast bullet every time

  3. #3
    Member Micky Duck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Geraldine
    Posts
    24,805
    760 because I've used it for the 110s and know it works great.plus it's usually available and great flow through a measure
    Jhon and RUMPY like this.
    75/15/10 black powder matters

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    The 'Naki
    Posts
    2,480
    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmsaum View Post
    2217
    Got published data?

    Name:  Screenshot_20231020-133712_Brave.jpg
Views: 267
Size:  366.9 KB
    I know a lot but it seems less every day...

  5. #5
    Member Oldbloke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2020
    Location
    Victoria Australia
    Posts
    615
    Not a lot of experience with most powders but these two cover a wide range. I use AR2208 for 30.06 and 223. Very versatile stuff.

    AR2206H - 47.0gn/3298fps/4700CUP - 50.0gn/3401fps/50200CUP

    AR2208 - 48.0gn/3232fps/47000CUP - 52.0gn/3397fps/50200CUP
    Jhon likes this.
    Hunt safe, look after the bush & plug more pests. The greatest invention in the history of man is beer.
    https://youtu.be/2v3QrUvYj-Y
    A bit more bang is better.

  6. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2019
    Location
    Okawa Hawkes Bay
    Posts
    3,070
    Greetings @Jhon,
    If you are wanting to keep the wear and tear on the barrel down then reducing the powder charge is key. Personally I would keep away from the slow and ball powders. For flexibility it would be hard to go past AR2206H/ H4895. Until recently Hodgdon published a reduced load of 39 grains of H4895 with the 100 grain in the .270 for 2,677 fps at 30,000 PSI. They still publish their 60% rule that allows light loads with H4895 down just not the actual loads. This does not apply to IMR4895.
    Regards Grandpamac.
    Jhon likes this.

  7. #7
    Full of shit Ryan_Songhurst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    South Island
    Posts
    10,318
    Go hard or go home
    Moa Hunter, Micky Duck and makka like this.
    270 is a harmonic divisor number[1]
    270 is the fourth number that is divisible by its average integer divisor[2]
    270 is a practical number, by the second definition
    The sum of the coprime counts for the first 29 integers is 270
    270 is a sparsely totient number, the largest integer with 72 as its totient
    Given 6 elements, there are 270 square permutations[3]
    10! has 270 divisors
    270 is the smallest positive integer that has divisors ending by digits 1, 2, …, 9.

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2019
    Location
    Okawa Hawkes Bay
    Posts
    3,070
    Greetings again,
    The point I forgot to make is that your confidence range of loads is much wider with AR2206H than other powders. My experience with AR2206H in the .308 and .303 is that loads much under 80% of max tend to burn a bit dirty so somewhere in the 39 to 50 grain range you should find what you want.
    GPM.
    Jhon likes this.

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    South taranaki
    Posts
    429
    2209 aka h4350 just goes so well in 270
    Moa Hunter likes this.
    Using Tapatalk

  10. #10
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    North Canterbury
    Posts
    5,462
    Its quite a big case so go for the best case fill. Out of your group of powders 2209 / 4350 is the pick. Crank them fast and BC wont matter, 400mtr easy
    Jhon likes this.

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Hastings
    Posts
    2,653
    2213sc. When are you buying your new barrel. Stoking enough powder to zing that weight pill you are into lava hot country.

  12. #12
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Hastings
    Posts
    2,653
    Moa Hunter and Jhon like this.

  13. #13
    Member Micky Duck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Geraldine
    Posts
    24,805
    Quote Originally Posted by TeRei View Post
    2213sc. When are you buying your new barrel. Stoking enough powder to zing that weight pill you are into lava hot country.
    Not really as can't fit in more than 60grains of 2213sc and that's still a maximum for the 130grn pill depending on which manual you look in.
    75/15/10 black powder matters

  14. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2023
    Location
    SE QLD, Australia
    Posts
    54
    x2 Grandpamac

    I have a youth load made for reduced recoil. 110Gr Sierra prohunter bullets and 39gr of AR2206H for 2550fps. Bullet has worked great on fallow, goats and pigs so far. Very accurate and pleasant to shoot. shots are up to 150m.

  15. #15
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    The 'Naki
    Posts
    2,480
    Quote Originally Posted by MtnMan View Post
    x2 Grandpamac

    I have a youth load made for reduced recoil. 110Gr Sierra prohunter bullets and 39gr of AR2206H for 2550fps. Bullet has worked great on fallow, goats and pigs so far. Very accurate and pleasant to shoot. shots are up to 150m.
    Barrel twist?
    I know a lot but it seems less every day...

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Powder choice for 7-08
    By 1 deer a year in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: 17-11-2022, 07:06 PM
  2. Projectile choice 284
    By George22 in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 28-10-2021, 03:28 PM
  3. .308 win powder choice
    By Dicko in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 14-05-2021, 11:04 PM
  4. Replies: 21
    Last Post: 20-04-2020, 08:33 PM
  5. 22-250 Projectile Choice?
    By Dorkus in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 14-06-2017, 12:33 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!