Thread: Powder trickler advice

Originally Posted by P38

I currently use a K-fried spoon and a Hornady Pacific balance scale.

Have tried the McD's spoon too but preferred Red over White

Cheap, easy to use and surprisingly accurate.

Same here, Lee spoons and then manual tricker onto ancient RCBS balance scale.

Got the shits with electronic scales taking ages to warm up and then giving progressively heavier and heavier loads...

Originally Posted by Matt2308

Wouldn't be without my RCBS chargemaster.
Throws repeatable and accurate charges and does it very quickly after I reprogrammed it to speed up the dispensing time.

+1 for this, and don't forget the McD's straw mod, together make the unit pretty damn user friendly

Originally Posted by ebf

Same here, Lee spoons and then manual tricker onto ancient RCBS balance scale.

Got the shits with electronic scales taking ages to warm up and then giving progressively heavier and heavier loads...

Have used a combination of these over the years and also found cheap electronic scales could vary up to almost a grain during my reloading sessions...before I saw the light and bought the Chargemaster!

I use the chargemaster which throws a 10th of a Gm short and then use a GD503 scale with an Orion electronic trickler to get the exact same load to 5000th (0.005)of a gn



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfl9C0-5zYw

Originally Posted by DAF

I use the chargemaster which throws a 10th of a Gm short and then use a GD503 scale with an Orion electronic trickler to get the exact same load to 5000th (0.005)of a gn



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfl9C0-5zYw

Wow.
I bet @ebf does that but with 5 sets of scales


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Originally Posted by DAF

I use the chargemaster which throws a 10th of a Gm short and then use a GD503 scale with an Orion electronic trickler to get the exact same load to 5000th (0.005)of a gn



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfl9C0-5zYw

the chargemaster was .115gr out.

By using both chargemaster and gd503 I found chargemaster is all over the place when throwing loads the .1 accuracy is more like .3 up and down.
Since switching most of my rifles have a great water line

Originally Posted by DAF

By using both chargemaster and gd503 I found chargemaster is all over the place when throwing loads the .1 accuracy is more like .3 up and down.

Exact same experience using a hornady electronic, even after waiting 30 minutes for it to warm up and calibrating etc.

At the end of 50 rounds, I would invariably be up 0.3 or 0.4 grain.

And DAF, thanks for posting that, at least I am not alone in my OCD quest for the perfect waterline

Lol you should see my brass prep lol

Originally Posted by DAF

I use the chargemaster which throws a 10th of a Gm short and then use a GD503 scale with an Orion electronic trickler to get the exact same load to 5000th (0.005)of a gn



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfl9C0-5zYw

Same setup as me. Still want a Prometheus though

Well it has been an interesting afternoon

Unit calibrated, tested, tested and weighed again.

Out of @100 loads this arvo, approx 3 were +.2 over the set weight.



Powered thru quite a few rounds, very quickly.

Is it worth it ? For me, yes. Time is money I enjoy reloading on a single stage, sometimes it's quite therapeutic. this just speeds up the whole process.

Is it a must have ? No, not really.

While the powder was loading, I could seat the projectile and OAL measure. Then grab the newly dispensed powder, load it into the next case, throw into the Lee single stage and seat the projectile. Then rinse and repeat.

TBH just wished I had done this 6 months ago.

Awesome unit ... I've never for a second regretted buying mine .....

Yeah I must admit I'm pleasantly surprised with mine, I was able to get a good rhythm running and still have time to measure every round, and tweak the odd one.

I also run a progressive kit - Dillon - for 9mm, which churns them out as fast as I can move the handle and load which is handy for doing 150 round batches, but for 223 I take the time on each round and the accuracy result is worth it to me, for target/competition shooting. But blew through 200 rounds this arvo, while taking the time to piss around taking slo mo videos and photos.

I've seen various integrated dispenser units in action and haven't been impressed with either their accuracy or speed. On the accuracy side, the limitation is the strain gauge-based weighing system which will always be prone to drift.

I think the best speed you can achieve with highest accuracy is my current setup. I use a std RCBS thrower to give a slightly light throw which goes straight onto a set of A&D FX-120i scales. These are the proper magnetic force restoration scales that plain don't drift. Their resolution is basically a single kernel of 2209 to give you an idea. I use a Dandy electric trickler to bring it up to weight. I'd say I'd average maybe 4secs of trickling per charge to get exact accuracy. With this system, you're never left guessing what the final accuracy will be.

Originally Posted by 6x47

I've seen various integrated dispenser units in action and haven't been impressed with either their accuracy or speed. On the accuracy side, the limitation is the strain gauge-based weighing system which will always be prone to drift.

I think the best speed you can achieve with highest accuracy is my current setup. I use a std RCBS thrower to give a slightly light throw which goes straight onto a set of A&D FX-120i scales. These are the proper magnetic force restoration scales that plain don't drift. Their resolution is basically a single kernel of 2209 to give you an idea. I use a Dandy electric trickler to bring it up to weight. I'd say I'd average maybe 4secs of trickling per charge to get exact accuracy. With this system, you're never left guessing what the final accuracy will be.

I presume you are precision benchrest or xtreme long range shooting for that much fidling around.
I cross check my hornady auto load against my beam scale and they are spot on.
I beleive .1 of a grain out in standard amounts of powder is neither here nor there down to half moa accuracy any way.
Each to their own methods