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    Pressure / barrel speeds?

    Ok guys im trying to get my head around a few things.

    Firstly pressure. Why is it lighter pills in the same cal can use more of the same powder than heavier pills. Is it to do with resistance?
    How can this effect the case differently (pressure wise) ?

    Secondly barrel speed?? If someone has told me my barrel is slow (tikka) how could a magnum of same cal same (tikka) go any faster?

    Just getting my head around the basics of reloading so keen to learn. Hope these even make sense: D

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    For the same charge a lighter projectile will move more easily and build less pressure.

    I think a "fast" or"slow" barrel is probably more to do with variations in chamber and how it shows pressure in the ways we normally read it..... but I really have no idea
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    For the same charge a lighter projectile will move more easily and build less pressure.

    I think a "fast" or"slow" barrel is probably more to do with variations in chamber and how it shows pressure in the ways we normally read it..... but I really have no idea
    Thanks.

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    Could barrel speed be purely down to twist rate ?
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    The lighter projectile will accelerate faster and will have moved further down the barrel when max pressure is reached. Same pressure but more volume = more powder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana View Post
    The lighter projectile will accelerate faster and will have moved further down the barrel when max pressure is reached. Same pressure but more volume = more powder.
    Mmm starting to get that bit. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengy View Post
    Could barrel speed be purely down to twist rate ?
    Slower twist should be faster as not using up as much energy to rotate mass,but the term is usually used to compare otherwise identical barrels.
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    Another question. What are the common pressure signs and does anyone have photos with explanations?
    Maybe a thread from one of you gurus for us newbies to reloading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibo View Post
    Another question. What are the common pressure signs and does anyone have photos with explanations?
    Maybe a thread from one of you gurus for us newbies to reloading?
    when you blow a primer............. you know youve hit pressure
    Dont waste your time chasing every last fps, it doesnt matter in the real world, it wont make a difference, all it will do is cause head aches and frustrations. And dont listen to silly old cunts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiddy View Post
    when you blow a primer............. you know youve hit pressure
    So i keep going till then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibo View Post
    So i keep going till then?
    jeues christ that was a joke
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    Dont waste your time chasing every last fps, it doesnt matter in the real world, it wont make a difference, all it will do is cause head aches and frustrations. And dont listen to silly old cunts

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    There was a thread somewhere with some examples. But making a new one as a sticky is a good idea.

    I have a picture somewhere of ejector marks on my 6.5ai brass
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    Every barrel made is different. Some tighter tolerance than others, different internal finish, due to the manufacturing process. A 'tight', or slow barrel will grip the projectile more and therefore give lower velocities for the same pressures.
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    the first sign of pressure is usually sticky bolt lift, this is when you feel resistance when lifting the handle to extract the round
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    Dont waste your time chasing every last fps, it doesnt matter in the real world, it wont make a difference, all it will do is cause head aches and frustrations. And dont listen to silly old cunts

 

 

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