Thread: Quickload ?

Can anyone run a couple of loads for me ?
44/40, 20” barrel
200 gr projectiles
AR2205, 23.5 gr and 25 gr

Cheers

Ideally need to know case capacity, coal and what projectile

2.6 cubic centimetres
Hornady XTP
COAL 40.4mm
Cheers

QuickLOAD.pdf

These are way over pressure and compressed loads. More like for 44 Rem Mag.

Its a Rossi 92, rear locking lugs.
You can safely load these to almost 44 mag pressures.
Mine are no where near 44.

Was the chart enough info or did you want something else

Was the chart enough info or did you want something else

Originally Posted by Frogfeatures

Its a Rossi 92, rear locking lugs.
You can safely load these to almost 44 mag pressures.
Mine are no where near 44.

Greetings,
The rifle may be strong enough (debatable) but the cases are not. Once a case fails bad things happen. If you want a 44 mag buy one. More than one 92 both Winchester and Rossi have been ruined or blown up by overloads.
Regards Grandpamac.

Nope, thank you, thats great
For some reason, It didn’t show when I first posted about the rifle make

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Greetings,
The rifle may be strong enough (debatable) but the cases are not. Once a case fails bad things happen. If you want a 44 mag buy one. More than one 92 both Winchester and Rossi have been ruined or blown up by overloads.
Regards Grandpamac.

True.
However, I’ve been corresponding with 3 different users, who all use the same powder, and one loads 26 gr
Now, admittedly, all rifles are different, but I’ve tried both loads, with no pressure signs.
I might go back to the 23.5, because it seems to do the job and is nice to shoot.
Not trying to duplicate 44 loads, simply looking at the options :-)

Ok, range time done
23.5 is great, 25, pressure signs.
Good grouping, now to find time to take it for a hunt.

Greetings Frogfeatures,
I thought a few more notes might be of use to you. First congratulations on backing of to 23.5 grains rather than some of the hotter loads mentioned, hopefully it keeps you out of trouble. Winchester 92 and clone rifles fail in two ways, either at the breech or stretching the receiver possibly to the point of failure. There are two factors at work here. First is the chamber pressure usually expressed in pounds force per square inch and second the bolt thrust, the force transferred to the bolt from the case head. This is expressed in pounds force. US practice is to ignore force in the unit name but it is the correct unit. Chamber pressures for cartridges for the 92 run form 13,000 psi in the 44 WCF aka 44-40 to 40,000 psi for the .218 Bee. The Bee, 25-20 and .32-20 have a much smaller case diameter so there is more steel around the chamber to resist the pressure. Winchester also may have used stronger steel in rifles for this cartridge. With the 44 and 38 WCF there is less steel so pressures must be held lower. Bolt thrust is determined by both chamber pressure and case head diameter. The 44 WCF has a much larger diameter than the .218 Bee (also larger than the .44 Mag) so bolt thrust is higher at the same pressure or the same at lower pressure. The point of this ramble is to show that there are many factors in rifle strength and we go beyond published data at our own risk and peril.
Regards and take care Grandpamac.