@stug that Titegroup load is very very nice, I ran a can of it in my Shadow too but kept looking for cheaper powders, @P38 Yeah that's my current shadow load too, and I run about 6.2gr in my Czechmate. Is below major but I don't like to thrash my gun for club shoots.
The thing that I picked up with 9mm loads is the dramatic difference that comes from OAL changes, you can fine tune the feel and velocity by playing around
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