you CAN pull projectile with pair of vice grips if YOU ARE CAREFUL you wont damage projectiles at all...put in shell holder and lift ram so projectile sticks out top of press frame,gently grip projectile with vice grips level with press/flat then lift press handle which drops case down leaving projectile held in vice grips.Ive donte this many times and damage slightly about 1 in 20...have kinetic puller now...using the lee shell holders in kenetic puller sure is faster than proper ones provided.
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