Are these safe to reload??Attachment 125335
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Are these safe to reload??Attachment 125335
no
Put some black powder thru it, quite safe with that:D
I'm guessing new Winchester brass?
this is new winchester brass :(
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@cookie, is this ex military brass?
I've reloaded dented shoulder brass and shot it at the range as the 1st fouler shot to fire form back to original shape with no signs of it having a ding. Also anneal the case first before sizing and have had no issues.
If thats already been fired i wouldnt reload it or use the firearm it was used in
that case bulge near the primer end is a concern
Na its R-P
had the callipers on it and no bulge.....i think its just a bad photo
I do wonder if Winchester regularly mix up there scrap bin with their saleable brass bin.... appaling QA!Quote:
Originally Posted by gonetropo
Oh I thought it was belted magnum brass, is that not the case ( pun unintended )
Dents like that usually happen from full length resizing with too much lube.
Its basically making your load slightly hotter than it should be as the case capacity has been reduced by the volume of the dent.
Personally I would not be too worried in general about shooting it, as its a dent, not a crease which is easier to rupture, but as with @Slug , id use it for a fouler or whatever and expect that it might shoot to a slightly different POI as that load in effect will have a different powder capacity/fill ratio than the others. After its fired off as a fouler or whatever it should be back to normal and can go back into normal rotation.
I also agree with @mimms2 that the base of the cartridge looks a bit suspect. Can almost see two rings around the base..
What is the origin of this brass and how many times has it been fired?
I get that quite frequently after annealing and reforming CAC brass. Fires right out no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slug
Assuming it chambers okay, I would probably load it as a subsonic Trailboss load to fireform it, but that is one of my regular loads.
On the other hand, I might decide it's worth at most $2 and chuck it in the bin, or use it as a dummy round for setting the seating die.
That aparrent ring at the base is probably where the case head protrudes from the chamber, a slight polished line sometimes occurs there because the portion in the chamber is pressed smooth and the rest of the base isn't. Ive only seen on rimless cases as rimmed case headspace on the rim so the entire case is inside the chamber.
As said for a couple of bucks i might retire it. Cheers everyone
Hey @cookie can you throw up a photo of the base of that cartridge. To me it looks like a bit of light play from your fingertips cause it to look like a bulge at the base.
Nice to have another look from a different angle or just the cartridge standing.
Cheers
My thoughts also, its a bad picture.Attachment 125370Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideshow
Top man thanks:thumbsup:
Just load it the dent will blow out.Quote:
Originally Posted by cookie
You can get them from too much lube.
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Load and shoot no problem.
the light can really play tricks sometimes
Greetings Cookie,
I have created my share of lube dents over the years but none that looked quite like that. Generally the lube dents do not go past the shoulder. I had seen photographs of dents like yours and after a short search found them in the Speer No 9 Manual. Speer called them shoulder collapses, caused when powder gasses get past the case neck due to the neck not sealing in the chamber. Speer noted that the problem was mainly in magnum cases with light loads of slow powders but I guess it could happen with smaller cases in similar circumstances. A hard neck could aggravate the problem. If the case came out of the chamber looking like that then it is a shoulder collapse and a change to the powder and load may be needed. If it happened in the die then it is the mother of all lube dents. In any case I would retire the case to my interesting brass box as you may never see another.
Regards Grandpamac.
