Thread: Seriously underrated 6.5x47 Lapua

Originally Posted by deepsouthaussie

Any comments around factory offerings?

Pump some through Edendale mate

Originally Posted by Dreamer

This thread didn't need to be filled up with all this f...ing bullshit! Why didn't/don't you start your own thread on holding shit!

Because its an effing conversation... this effing paranoia about thread creep does not mirror real life. Real conversations ebb and flow and dicks who throw tantees about not remaining close to original subject get dealt with in real life. What a winaa - are you sure you aren't missing a couple of letters?

The irony appears completely lost on those who want to wank on about 270s and waikato beer in every friggin thread.. queuing up here to bitch about thread creep???

Unlike those dicks there might have been some value in a discussion about bipods and forend control... irrespective of the original post..

Develop some ability to communicate and skilfully turn the conversation back to where you would like it to go rather than stamping your little feet....

for pities sake...

For @deepsouthaussie to my knowledge there are no factory offerings unfortunately. Because a thread can come back on topic. It should be possible to get commercial handloads done for a similar price as ammo, or premium ammo (which it is better than). I never liked that I had to send my rifle off for this but it worked Ok. I got a very slow load that was extremely accurate the one time I tried it.

As for this whole thread, Sidney is right. Conversations wander. I can't picture someone at the pub sitting around a table telling people what they can talk about when, but then I don't go to the pub much. Have we not had this entire discussion before? Have I not been bollocked by mostly the exact same people in exactly the same way on another forum? And what happened? We set this up and you all left a place where every section has a mod enforcing these rules you like so much.
You guys followed everyone who was sick of you over here once you had completely dominated the discussion there, and thus killed it. You can go back. The mods are no doubt still there telling people where they are allowed to post.
@257weatherby I live in a small town where some people hang their heads and look around nervously because petty dominant types will pick on them. There are other people who are petty dominant like chickens, and they do all the pecking. They walk with their head up and they like to look people up and down. For whatever reason, the shy timid ones who get picked on find me approachable and the petty dominant ones seem to literally run away.

Just an observation.

All good, just tyre kicking anyway.. While I really like the Idea of a 6mm running high velocities with decent BC pills and low recoil, I think my next rifle is going magnum

I think I need to post a naval history comment to lighten the mood.
Seems a bit grim.

@Wingman, got any updates fella? Interested on how it's all behaving.

There's a guy selling factory chambered "Lynx" straight pull rifles on Trademe - and I've noticed the 6.5x47 is one of the chamberings available. Pricey, but they look like they could be a bit of fun.

Dam - what have I been missing here - "6.5x47 Lapua" so wasn't the slightest interested in "another" primer induced explosion
All the time it was about everything else other than by the looks - have I missed it or is still running hot

Shit guys I go away hunting for 4 days and you cant play nice and keep my thread on track?!

Actually I dont mind the secondary topic as it is quite relevant and an interesting topic. @Flyblown and I had quite a few conversations about this while we were in the field and we had some interesting related events which I will go into more about later.
The 6.5 Lapua got a fair work out and lots of testing and I am more than excited about the results.
We have a heap of pics and video footage which we will share in due time.

Just got home and need to clean the gear and process some meat.

sorry to all and sundry for getting off track.....as for moderating it...well on yet another forum what we do is split off the off topic bit at moderator lever and chuck it back up as a seperate thread......doesnt happen often LOL keep the photos etc coming Wingman.

People clearly just got over excited by the x47

I wonder if any of those who don't want us to discuss muzzle flip and recoil after the projectile has left the barrel are aware for a round that sends 140g at serious speeds there is virtually none of either?

As in I don't thing there is a round that boots less for the ammont of downrange oomph.

Originally Posted by Tussock

As in I don't thing there is a round that boots less for the ammont of downrange oomph.

Of course not, recoil is a linear relationship with muzzle energy.
If you want more oomph down range you will inevitably get more recoil.

Whether the 6.5x47 hits the sweet spot between the two is down to personal preference.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

Of course not, recoil is a linear relationship with muzzle energy.
If you want more oomph down range you will inevitably get more recoil.

Whether the 6.5x47 hits the sweet spot between the two is down to personal preference.

Recoil is quoted as a linear relationship to muzzle energy, but muzzle energy is divided between the projectile and the venting gas. The projectile and the venting gas have a different effect on felt recoil. Recoil is an equation with muzzle energy in it. Felt recoil is what transfers to the shoulder.

Take a rifle and shoot it with a 26" barrel and then shoot it with a 10" barrel. Minus the difference in friction down the barrel, the muzzle energy is the same. See if they both feel the same to shoot. At 26" the energy is in the projectiles motion, and at 16" the gas discharge. At 16" some of the energy is probably in a huge fire ball of un-burned powder. Try a muzzle brake. The muzzle brake does not direct the projectile out sideways.

A linear relationship between felt recoil and muzzle energy is an oversimplification. It comes down to efficiency. How much from the energy from the powder (the only source) can be transferred to the projectile. I personally think the projectile moves the gun very little compared to the high pressure gas at the muzzle and the diameter of the hole the gas vents out of. I think nothing makes more efficient use of the powder in a 20" barrel (or there abouts) than a 6.5x47L. I think Lapua planned that. It is not a consideration in most rounds.

Be curious to know how many people have actually shot 6.5x47

@Tussock

I want single shot accuracy, up to 3 rounds. I don't actually care as much about groups as I do how much a single shot from a cold barrel deviates from the point of aim.

Well said, the importance of this is often overlooked.

Righto, hopefully this short vid touches on the fore mentioned questions of rifle hold/control, 6.5x47 Lapua's recoil and ergonomics of the Desert Tech's bolt configuration.

This was a quick check of my 130gr TMK load's ballistics correlation with my chrono and strelok. @Flyblown was spotting, I was shooting a rock at 497 meters (544 yards).



Following this test we moved out to 1012 meters and put this 5 shot group on a rock after a couple of sighters.



The following morning we put a paper target next to the rock to try and get a a better group. Unfortunately there was an ugly gusty wind and we couldnt see the hits so I only got one of 5 shots on the paper (4x A4 pages) you cabn see the hole on the R/H lateral line and the rest drifted off the paper to the right.