I have both Pro Hunter and Game Kings in 100g for the 243. The both appear to have very similar ogives shape. Can I sub one for the other with powder load and seating depth? Running 47.2g AR2217 for 3050fps validated today to 400y.
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I have both Pro Hunter and Game Kings in 100g for the 243. The both appear to have very similar ogives shape. Can I sub one for the other with powder load and seating depth? Running 47.2g AR2217 for 3050fps validated today to 400y.
Main difference is PH are all flat base and GK are boat tails
PH shoot well in older rifles. Slayed heaps with the 308 150grain.
Good pills
Seating depth maybe, powder load no, unless you are close to starting load.
The Prohunter will have a longer bearing surface than a Gameking of the same weight, which will increase pressure. Hardness may differ too which affects pressure.
Reloading books usually recommend reworking loads when you change batch/lot of the exact same bullet, let alone changing bullets.
How have you found them on Game.
I have been a fan of the smaller 85gr GK in 243 and in other calibers but have not heard lot about the larger ones. Some suggestions that they are a little heavily constructed to be effective in the 243 once the range starts to get up. (NB full disclosure I now use berger 87,105 and ELD-M 108 )
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Use the 85gr GMK in 243 for the roar and 65gr GMK in 223 for main shooting for rest of year. The 65gr is an impressive pill.
Pro hunters are awesome projectiles everything I have shot with them has been in a whole heap of trouble real quick, mainly used the 120s in a 260 and for a 0-300m load couldn't have asked for better performance.
On the other hand, the sgk is also a great performer in my experience (150gr in 270win) I would just choose the one your rifle likes best and go hunting
I've used the ProHunter 100gr in .243 for about 25 years. Regular kills at 250m+, longest kills have been 350m. It is accurate enough for me to trust it 100% with precision neck shots in steep bushy country, for when I don't want them to go even one step in any direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZQLewis
It has accounted for more game in that time than all the other bullets I've ever used put together, twice over. It stabilises fine in a 1:10" twist, though it can be a bit finnickity to get the load right. I push mine at 2800fps and they are a bloody fantastic projectile, frangible and very deadly, dumps all the energy where it matters rather than punching right through and expending its energy somewhere in the surrounding countryside.
There is no difference in the construction of the ProHunter and the GameKing, they are identical but for the base design. Contrary to some opinions on the interweb, they are not designed to be controlled expanding (ProHunter) vs frangible (GameKing). I have that in writing direct from Sierra!
The 85g HPBT is a fantastic pill but I wanted a little more weight and the increased BC that comes with the GK. I have a good load for the 100g PH and as I have a supply of 100g GK was hoping the two may be pretty much interchangeable.
Sierra has both bullets in their load manual in the same bracket for loading so figured the two should be pretty much interchangeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigar
I've used the ProHunter 100gr in .243 for about 25 years. Regular kills at 250m+, longest kills have been 350m. It is accurate enough for me to trust it 100% with precision neck shots in steep bushy country, for when I don't want them to go even one step in any direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZQLewis
It has accounted for more game in that time than all the other bullets I've ever used put together, twice over. It stabilises fine in a 1:10" twist, though it can be a bit finnickity to get the load right. I push mine at 2800fps and they are a bloody fantastic projectile, frangible and very deadly, dumps all the energy where it matters rather than punching right through and expending its energy somewhere in the surrounding countryside.
There is no difference in the construction of the ProHunter and the GameKing, they are identical but for the base design. Contrary to some opinions on the interweb, they are not designed to be controlled expanding (ProHunter) vs frangible (GameKing). I have that in writing direct from Sierra!
Used both styles in a 308 years ago and found them to be great killers, using either or you should have to many problems.
Sierra brackets all their projectiles into groups based on weight, that doesn't mean a hot load with one of them will be safe with another.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
There's a new Sierra Game Changer projectile that could be worth looking in to as well
I looked at the 120 Pro hunters for my 260 but Sierra website says too fragile on larger game. Anyone else use them?
Yes, but in 7mm. They are great.Quote:
Originally Posted by superdiver
I wouldn’t take what Sierra say as gospel, more of a “let’s cover our arses” type recommendation. I loved the Sierra 1345 in my .223, mushrooms beautifully at .222/.223 velocities in deer, and yet is marketed as part of their varminter range.Quote:
Originally Posted by superdiver
A very well known local Hawkes Bay hunter thats been around a fair while and shoots many times more deer than the average hunter would, used 120gr Pro Hunters in a 260 rem almost exclusively for years IIRC. They work very wellQuote:
Originally Posted by superdiver
Rod Knight?Quote:
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Cheers @GWH
I thought Nimrod was more of an EBRG fan?Quote:
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OK, what is EBRG?Quote:
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Ear Burrowing Rat Gun
243, superb calibre !
Suposedly, you need to be so close that you can put the barrel in the ear of your target.
We don't have one. Three isn't one. :DQuote:
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