Slow shooting.

Apart from the odd animal I have not been using my hunting rifles much over the last couple years due to getting back into pistols and rattle guns.
I hope to have more time on my hands with a new gig I fluffed my way into recently, so I am planning to be doing a lot more hunting.

I recently decided to use my hunting rifles every break home either hunting or just keeping my eye in.

3 months ago I decided I would fire 1 shot a month with my .260 Ackley, cold bore at 200 yards at the same target.
Our club range only goes to 200 but is a 3 min drive or I would probably have stretched it out a bit on the farm.

Target since end of November.
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So far just on .9
Shot on fine days with Varying degrees of wind but not very strong.

Shot prone with rear bag and bipod thru my old dunger blaser using an HD5 5-25 Zeiss.
140 Amax 2940fps
I plan to keep going but if the next couple stay inside the current group I might stop😆




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try locking the gate behind you and have a look from the berm on range 5

At least you can be sure the barrel has plenty of time to cool down between shots.

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I remember you telling me about that John.
But for all the hassle it is just easier for me to drive out the farm and stretch the range.
I have fired a couple LR shots as well out bluebottle way. I have a good wee spot there to shoot 4-600 across some hills and shifty winds and it is all drivable for a quick setup.😆



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At least you can be sure the barrel has plenty of time to cool down between shots.

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True. Jokes aside tho, it is a hunting rifle and knowing it is reasonably consistent on a cold barrel gives a ton confidence to stretch the range on an animal if it is what's needed.

I have done velocity tests as well on this barrel over a period of time with 2 loads I shoot thru it, and they have been just as consistent. Even better since I started annealing every firing.




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Your three shot group over 3 or so months is way more meaningful than a three shot group fired at the end of an hour on the range. Will give you heaps of confidence.

At least if I miss I know it was something I did wrong from the get go.😆

I have 3 scopes for that barrel.
I store them seperately to the rifle.
A lot is to be said for the reliability of the Blaser mounting system as well.

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That new gig you fluffed your way into, sounds likes it's funded by Blaser :XD:

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Ha Ha, yeah Na.
Pretty sure the bloke I work for/contract to, could buy out Blaser tho.
Keen hunter/shooter by all accounts and wants to come to NZ hunting with a few of his mates one day.







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Nice.

That is an excellent idea Dave

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That is an excellent idea Dave

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No one has ever accused me of that before mate😆

Gunna give it a go?
If I was going to do it again I would probably shoot at 500.

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I am
I will put up the same target every time and do the same
over a year I should have a very interesting group.
I may to do it with several calibres over various reloading, same load but will be keen to seen impact difference.
I will think about which distance.

Good stuff. Please post your results in this thread.

I am back mid March and head away the last week of March for the roar so I will be sure to post another shot before I head bush.
I was thinking 200 is probably not a fair indication of what effects temperature and other variables can have, that's why I was wondering if further out was better.
But my software should account for that. I zero at 200 with my long guns so consistency is the key.

I will be more than happy if I can keep it under 2" over 12 months.
I may start one with my .223 barrel as well.

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Just bumping this so I can find it before I head away looking for a stag worth shooting. Will fire a shot for March when the weather allows.

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Fired my shot for March about an hour ago.
Didn't feel great. Cross hair settled to the left of the target after I released it, but that's shooting😆


Still, it's good enough for a head shot at 200😆
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This is such a cool idea. I'm going to try it too

I forgot to post up April's result.😆

Shot before I went away in April.

I shot a goat at 480 yrds and had a central hit on steel at 500 yrds since.

I thought I must have lost zero when I adjusted the tension on my saddle mount before my roar trip.

However a check at 100 had it bang on for 200 zero so no excuses.
It was a drizzly day with a bit of wind but it was coming straight down into my face. More to do with setup I reckon causing the slight drift.

April
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I need to fire the 30 06 again, still have the original target.
won't be this weekend though

May.
Not sure what is going on.
Have had a similar wind down the range for the last few shots and I doubt it would shift the group that far at 200.
Confirmed zero at 100 with a 3 round group that couldn't get anymore central.
My position setup is a routine I have followed for years so if it turns out to be something I am not picking up in that, I need to sort it.😆
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Last 3 rounds measure .65 and shot since March.

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May.
Not sure what is going on.
Have had a similar wind down the range for the last few shots and I doubt it would shift the group that far at 200.
Confirmed zero at 100 with a 3 round group that couldn't get anymore central.
My position setup is a routine I have followed for years so if it turns out to be something I am not picking up in that, I need to sort it.😆
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Last 3 rounds measure .65 and shot since March.

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@R93, would it be about "canting" the rifle?

Mac

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@R93, would it be about "canting" the rifle?

Mac

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Very well could be. But I would expect with a tilt to the left the group to go a bit higher left than it has.
I don't use a bubble.

I fired a 3 round group at 100 from the same position straight after firing this shot.
It went in a clover leaf, bang on center line 1.4" high.
But it is definitely food for thought thanks Mac.

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I know how you feel, it happen with me too and then i keep thinking "what have i done wrong?", actually "nothing important, i just forgot to think about how the target was up and if i did aligned the reticle with the "diamond/center dot", if the target itself is a bit canted and you adjust the reticle to it your shot can and will go "sideways" too.
About the canting direction, it actually make the shot goes a bit "lower".

Ryan D'Paul on youtube, series "Road to Precision", somewhere in his videos he actually shot a sequence with the rifle canting in different angles with pretty cool results. I will share here the specific video if i find it.

I am happy i said something that was somehow useful. LOL.

Mac

The more I think about it the more I think you are right.
The range backing has no straight lines at all. Just bush.
I had a high post to staple the target to up high so I could see over the closer mounds from the firing line.
That post has been pulled down and I am having to use a cross beam to fix the target to. To get height I am stapling it right at the bottom.
I will put my level on next month when I shoot it and we will see😆

I have to fly to brisbane first thing in the morning for a couple weeks.

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@R93. If you drift any further left you will be voting for Labour or even the Greens next election.

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Nah. A slight drift left just places R93 next to Genghis Khan and within touching distance of Donald Trump. :).

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Never! However you are hairy enough to be a green.

Only you're not a common sense deprived and scroggin eating retard.😆



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Nah. A slight drift left just places R93 next to Genghis Khan and within touching distance of Donald Trump. :).

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Chingis, I don't think was very left, for one, he did what he said. Plus established free trade, passports, fast mail system, religious freedom, state rule without religion, knew how trade and money works, had a good justice system, etc....

10 Things You May Not Know About Genghis Khan - History Lists


Had a bit of a temper, but everyone has some small bad traits...... :)

Would ambient temp be affecting powder burn rates?

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Would ambient temp be affecting powder burn rates?

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Thought of everything except cant as I do not normally have an issue with it.
Was pretty warm in March and April when I shot so most likely not powder temp but I won't count it out.

I will setup as normal when I try it again in June and will know rather quickly if it is a cant issue. My gut is telling me it is where to start at least.


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Nah. A slight drift left just places R93 next to Genghis Khan and within touching distance of Donald Trump. :).

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I love Donald Trump. 😆

Rushy used to beat up Hitler and Genghis Khan for their lunch money.

Pussies😆

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June's effort. It is not cant.
Still scratching my head.😆


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Blaser mounts issue?

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June's effort. It is not cant.
Still scratching my head.😆


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More likely bendded barrel?!
Lol! Just joking!

Great stuff!

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More likely bendded barrel?!
Lol! Just joking!

Great stuff!

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I put a shot on steel at 500 a month or 2 ago. Didn't have any windage smacked my aiming mark just right of dead center.

I am going to leave it for now.


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How many shots down the barrel since you last stripped all the copper out?

Could be beginning to copper up a little somewhere in there, pushing the POI.

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How many shots down the barrel since you last stripped all the copper out?

Could be beginning to copper up a little somewhere in there, pushing the POI.

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I don't get much if any fouling. Every projectile is coated.

I will give it a clean before I shoot it in July for interest sake.

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Blaser mounts issue?

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No.

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Blaser mounts issue?

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You're a brave man mentioning mount issues to a Blaser owner VC :XD:

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No.

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You say no but your zero apears to have shifted.
How can you be certain it is not a mount issue?

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