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Nice kimjon, can i suggest you try one of your previous pills, the ones with just the cuts in the jacket, not the enlarged hollow point, in the same bucket of water test. Since you no how they perform on game you should be able to make a pretty good comparision to your new model!
Dia5mm x 20mm deep, then used the primer flash-hole deburring tool to further open up the nose a little more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanners
Normally I would, but I'm out of buckets haha...Quote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
I'm pretty sure my first modified SMK's (V1.1 flutes only, no hollow point) didn't open up at all judging by the pin holes it was leaving in the goats on the exit side. I know a few people who have tested the standard 240smk ''in the bucket'' a few years ago and it hardly deformed them at all...some even looked like you could use them again except for the rifling marks left behind:)
As Spanners clicked onto earlier, the jacket material on the SMK is very thick and the hollow point itself is superficial i.e. only in the tip of the jacket and nothing at all in the lead behind. However by drilling the 20mm deep hole into them its seams to have fixed that issue.
kj
How much weight have you taken out by drilling that hole? It must be a fair chunk
Attn spanners.
How is production coming along?
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Funny you should ask. Waiting for a mate to arrive and we're going to squirt some wire tonight
Sweet.
Keep us posted .
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Wire making Vid
Turns a 110mmx19mm billet from the mould Veitnamcam made for me into 1100mm of 6mm diameter wire for use as cores for 30 cal jacketed projectiles
Uses approx 2000 psi to push it through
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJX0eikISnc
Finished wire
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Sweet. I bet its pretty hot, were you dumb enough to grab it?:D
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Gloves :DQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Pussy :D
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Fucking Chinese 3kw transformer puked on me :(
Got cores swaged, seated and 1st stage of boat tail formed.
Around 197gr at the mo IIRC.
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Looking good man :D
Went and got another TX
Without ball 196gr, with 198gr - ball is 6mm.
HP is almost 12mm deep and about 4.2 at case mouth.
They should stabilize ok in a 10 or 11 twist as no weight up front.
Jackets serated
Cores not X split as the punch is designed around ~220gr weight. There is a lot of dead space in the front of these an this a little short.
Not sure if the RBT has enough forming pressure as the transition has a roundish corner on it and would like it to be sharper.
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Cool:thumbup:
Is there not enough length in the punch to run it further in separate the core?
How about if the jacket was shorter?
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Core splitter punch is used in the jacket after seated. If run down further the jacket gets stuck on the punch
Not a prob where the lead is closer to the mouth on a heavier pill.
Could make jacket smaller but a lot of work.
These are AMax AMP jackets
You going to send me some to test ? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Spanners
Get in lineQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
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You can see the split core in this pic. It has picked up copper and peeled it down on top. Looks mint but stuck on the punch http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/12/yjyhebar.jpg
Split about 1/2 from case mouth :)
That looks the biz
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A lot more aggressive and split than the pic shows
Dumb question, but what are you going to end up with weight wise, and how does that differ from available 30cal heads ?
150-250gr ish
RBBT
Serated jackets
Split core
Huge HP or balls
1E or 6S nose
In a Amax AMP jacket
Based on the current die selection almost endless options of things you can't buy.
Looking good, keen to see how it goes on game?
kj
Kewl, designer ammo :D had to look up RBBT.
Did you just get 30 cal dies or others as well ?
If you're coming out for a shoot tomorrow, bring you fly rod, can do version 0.1 of a casting lesson.
Any closer to poking out some bullets @Spanners ?
I wish!
I'm in Korea doing stuff with this
Attachment 35098
food for thought..... size 7.5 steel bird shot fits neatly into 40 grn Winchester subsonic .22lr ammo slight tap in and it stays in place and they really open up inside bunny........haven't been game to try #2 in 151grn cast hp off trademe but thought is there.................
they work ok as they are..head shot one of my sheep at 30ish yards and it went right through skull from front exiting in pithing hole...naaasty on bunnies,no goats to try it on and haven't tried it on wobblie yet.
I cant see how a hardened steel ball would "open up" in anything or why you would shoot it down any rifled barrel you don't hate.
well inside the lead, no show of it touching rifling or I wouldn't have done it...and same theory as ballistic tip..its harder than the surrounding lead so on impact drives back into it starting expansion
oh I see, I was wondering how 7.5 fit down 5.56 :D
I don't shoot birds so not up on how shot size works sorry.
Have done some experimentation on balls in the nose, in theory a very light but hard ball should basically stop on impact due to lack of mass while the soft but heavy lead/copper carries on expanding around it.
in practise in my experimentation a decent hollow point/skiving and hydraulic action on the inside of the hollow point is more effective.
#7.5 shot is tiny...maybe 1.5mm across for quail or pigeons.
reason I tried it is the 42grn Winchester PP works a treat in my norinco and kills very well but the 40 grn not so much...thought to self why not???
Cher.
Trailboss isn't for speed it's for casefull fun!. the carbine bullets can be pushed to round 3000 fps in the 308 with the right powder, makes a good rabbit round and also works on hares and goat's
Trailboss isn't for speed it's for full case fun. With the right powder you can push the carbine bullets to round 3000 fps in the 3006 and 308 pretty explosive at the terminal end red mist rabbits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ground Control
keen to buy some when theyre ready.
update????????
I'm in the shed right now clearing shit in the direction of the press :D
i have just brought a suppressed .308 ans was thinking about subsonic rounds, did some searching and found this thread. very interested in hearing how everyone got on with this.
is the idea with subsonic rounds to get as heavier projectile as possible? to have the same ft/lb as a lighter faster travling projectile?
found these projectiles that seem fairly weighty
Frontier Projectiles 30CAL Game Ranger *Choose Your Weight & Type* 100x
cheers
I've got a few of these if you want to have a try. I've been using them in my 300 blackout with great success subsonically on goats and possums 9+ grains of 2205.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan88
www.lehighbullets.com they curl into 4 petals like a broad head and do some amazing terminal damage. Well worth a look.
I hear from the guys at reloaders that a few people now bring them in.
