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For the people that have been asking me on here I now have some 6.5mmTargex 140gr projectiles available, have finished my testing & I'm happy with them.
If you want some thats fine just contact me direct but please dont ask for big lots as I want to spread them around to shooters that need them & I dont want to see any show up on trademe for a blown up price.
If you get them off me & aren't happy just contact me & I will refund on them & sell to someone else who needs them.
Cheers
What sort of twist rate do they need?
Excellent!!!
Because I have a 264 win mag barrel that's a 1-9 for a future project. That I'm sorry to say is the standard twist for them usually but not ideal with some of the new High BV and long bulletsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dusty Fog
If I wanted to use these usually excellent projectiles and they need a quicker twist I'd be out of luck
I can send you some to try when mine arrive @csmiffy, pretty sure they will work in a 1-9Quote:
Originally Posted by csmiffy
Well done mate! I'd love to give some a try.Quote:
Originally Posted by TARGEX
Any additional info on them?
Directed toward match or hunting or a bit of both? Large or small hp? J4 jackets I'm guessing?
Any idea of the approx G1 BC?
Std boat tail or rebated?
Ogive design?
I've been running your 6mm bullets for a while now and they are fantastic!
I've been running the 6.5 140gr Berger VLD Hybrids which are extremely accurate but need a slight "adjustment" to the meplat to get them to expand on game with the lower velocities of the 6.5x47 Lapua and Creedmoor.
Good on you for tackling this project, I'm sure they will sell well for you
My 6.5x65R is a 1:8" twist barrelQuote:
Originally Posted by csmiffy
You 1:9" twist barrel is 10% slower but still unlikely to be a problem with 140 grain target projectiles
But will watch this thread with interest as I'm getting low in Lapua Scenar 139s which I use for hunting
I have found these very effective hunting projectiles despite the small hollow point and would have shot at least 50 deer, 20 chamois and a couple of bull tahr ( not ideal for tahr) with them
Have thought of making a jig to open up and uniform these hollow points
I was afraid of opening this can of worms. Can feel the pain in my press arm & shoulder already!
These are my usual design, rebated base & ULD profile.
I keep the tip slightly open on them to get the best performance on game. This comes at a cost to BC's but an animal running of because it got hit by a bullet that had a higher BC doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
For anyone wanting to use these for longer range target shooting I will be doing a closed tip version which will lift the BC higher but I wouldn't recommend them for hunting.
Also making a 120gr 6.5mm but don't have any available for sale right now(I used them all cause it was fun)!
The question on twist rate for a 9", I would think they will be fine but best to let me know when you want a few & I can get some to you to try.
BC on the open tip will be approx.500
Closed tip will be quite a bit higher BC but not for game.
Cheers
Thanks for that, pretty sure you have just made my fav new bullet! And a 120gr!!!! Yes please.. my grendel awaits patiently..
I had a .264 Win mag 1:9" it shot 140 grain projectiles fineQuote:
Originally Posted by Husky1600
Gidday Bryn - Congrats on getting these done. Could you please post up a list of all projectiles you offer, I know it's been done before but I can't find it. In a new thread would be great . . . .
You are probably right.Quote:
Originally Posted by shooternz
It seems that it is the later tipped projectiles that are just above 140 seem to be touch and go in some 264s.
They are longer and stuff things up a bit..
If these were a long ogive type it might be the same thing
If they are up to the usual.high standards they will be a very good bullet
Is the 6.5 for those who cant handle the velocity and brutal effect of 95gr Targex? LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by TARGEX
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
To anyone wanting a list of what I make which was asked for please contact me direct & I can send one.
Not really wanting to turn this into a sale advertisement. I just wanted to let it be known they are now available for the ones that were asking me for the 6.5mm projectiles.
It was mentioned about possibly opening the tips up more on my bullets.
Be careful if you do that, if the tips are made too open it becomes possible for the bullet to blow up quicker not giving the penetration needed first before opening internally.
Need an open tip for expansion but too much of a good thing will no longer be a good thing.
Other question I dont think I answered was that these are made using Berger J4 jackets like all the rest of my bullets.
There will be price increases before too long also as the jacket prices have gone up with our dollar etc etc & the freight has gone through the roof too.
For anyone wanting them the 120gr HP/BT 6.5mm are available now too.
Cheers
Anyone used the 140grn 6.5 yet i can't wait to give them a spin in the Creedmoor
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I have but I'm probably bias:D
In my creedmoor I cant get the 140gr to shoot over half inch unless its my fault on the rifle, they shoot a lot tighter than half inch if you want to get the loads sorted.
My rifle likes 39-40gr ADI2209 as the best loads with 140gr so far.
Not length sensitive either, in that rifle I am loading to clear the magazine.
I'm not really the best person to ask though, hopefully you'll get some independent feedback from some others using them.
Cheers, Bryn
I will be soon…
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Yup, got me some from Bryn a few weeks ago so thought I had better see what they are capable of today. No load development, no nothing, just copied my 143 loads. Took the rifle down to the range at lunchtime after remounting the scope. Five shots later was all sighted in so sent 5 rounds of my previous load downrange to make sure the rifle was grouping. Had a 3-4kph wind from right to left and this is what I got -
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After work, I thought I'd try another couple of loads, one the same as previous, but seated to mag length of 2.85. This time I had a gusty following wind that was varying from left to right, not ideal.
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And then a second using Superformance -
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Im more than happy with the results, all 3 are 5 shot groups, all are moa. But I should just stick to 4 shot groups cos that last shot is is the one that opens the group up from 18 to 27 mm. Shot at 100 metres, not yards.
that deer is dead...dead...and deader than a dead thing.
looks like you fellas are onto a real winner here.
Just need to confirm the load but it looks pretty promising. Exactly the same as my 140gr eld-m load. Forgot my chronograph but should be right around 2700fps
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140 grn Targex in my Sako Creedmoor with Hodgdon superprofrmance 4 different powder weights, with speeds running from 2785 to 2806fpshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3e43174940.jpg
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Amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP
My son shot 2 deer on 22 december with 95gr Targex. Both on the run and thru the neck. They not only catch up to deer quickly they deck them in a hurry. Not surprised at what the bigger pill does.Quote:
Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP
So that's established that they work well on paperQuote:
Originally Posted by Husky1600
Now I'm looking forward to seeing some results on large edible mobile targets
Thats the beauty of the most accurately made jackets in the world (Berger J4's).
All being made on the same sets of dies & I do try to do the best I can when I'm making the them.
Good shooting too cause I can't help with that at all!:thumbsup:
Thanks Bryn you do make an excellent projectile.Quote:
Originally Posted by TARGEX
I think that's all I'll be using in my two rifles from now on.
If only you could get more 80 grn in .223.
Although the 69grn do shoot well, if only i didn't pull the third shot of the five fired https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...fd2a6d8ec5.jpg
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All good, the 69gr are a nice bullet. I will eventually have 80gr again but it hinges on when Bergers make a new run of the jackets & they become available.
With all that's been going on the last year or two who knows when that will be.
Good luck with the 140gr, looks like your not going to have any trouble getting them going right.
Did some more testing in my rifle with the 140gr the other day & 40gr ADI2209 seems to be the sweet spot in mine for accuracy.
Will obviously vary in other rifles, they seem to be very length tolerant too, not needing a lot of messing around.
The 120gr are exactly the same ogive so seating depths will most likely stay the same as loads worked up for the 140gr & vice versa.
Hope this helps anyone using them.
Cheers, Bryn
Now if there were just some 95's about........
yeah,yeah I hear ya! If you knew how many people keep asking for them it would give you a giggle too.
Ring up Bergers for me & give them a hurry up!
I do have 105gr here if its any help.
The day WILL come, in the meantime I'll keep making what I can & supply what I can.
Cheers
Running the 105"s at the mo, very hard hitter and the 9" twist supports it to 300 so far. 95" are just cooler......... (and a big bunch faster in a short barrel!)Quote:
Originally Posted by TARGEX
could go with a 6.5 & run my 120gr:thumbsup:
Had a bit of free time yesterday, not much, but enough. Had a 30cm gong at 300, 400, 485, and 700. Loaded some 140's, using SPF cos it seems to be just a tad tighter in the groups, and slightly slower than 2209. Had sighted the rifle the day before and needed to verify the data. Two shots at 400, both on target about 8cm apart. Then back to 700. First shot slightly left and the second exactly smack bang in the centre. Walked away, those bullets just work! And the data shows they're doing 2685, and the BC is about .519/.520. Also I found that I was able to hold the rifle on target much easier to watch the impact. Thanks Bryn, great bullets, Im gonna have to get me some more.
Gidday Bryn
I've just got a 6.5-284(the Norma chamber designed for a COL of 82mm) going, and I want to run a 140gn mag length bullet . . . . so its going to have a fair bit of "jump". I had a few Berger VLD Hunting 140's to try and they go pretty good with the big jump, do you know how your 6.5 140's tolerate jump? Thanks
Hi there, in answer to your question I have found them to be no problem with jump.
To load from the mag I am jumping mine 100 thou to the rifling & no issues with accuracy.
Don't think you'll have any issues from what I have seen.
If you want to contact me direct it is targex10.1@gmail.com
Cheers
Thanks for the feedback on that Husky. I was working on approx .500 BC as I like to stay on the conservative side but thats interesting that you have come up with approx .520.
Good to hear they are going well for you too.
I will eventually be able to close the tips for target shooters which will lift the BC quite a bit more but they will only be any use for targets with the tips closed.
Waiting on a Tip closing die for that, which could be tomorrow or next year when its ready???
I have 105s I use in my 6bra, they like the same jump as bergers in my rifle (60 thou) if that's any help @Tentman. I only tried them at that jump and they shot tiny groups so didn't mess around ant further
A quick and public thank you Bryn, I finally did a quick zero check on my Grendel this morning for this weeks pending hunting trip..
The new 120gr hunter hollow points shoot exactly the same as the 120gr hornady ELDMs I have been running. Both shot a 1/2 moa at 100y.
I didnt do any load development at all just dropped the same powder charge as I run in the 120gr hornadys and loaded them to mag length.
The chrony gave me an average of 2260fps from the 10.5" grendel barrel.
I look forward to testing them on game this week but expect they will perform much the same as the hornady balistic tips with 100% energy dumps.
Keep up the good work!
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Ive never met a Targex bullet that didn't work.
