So all those that talk about reloading for accuracy - how do you do this?
Sand bags?
Bipod?
How do you eliminate the shooter as a source?
I'm looking at this:
Attachment 24517
$189 from Reloaders in Auckland.
How many of you use such things?
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So all those that talk about reloading for accuracy - how do you do this?
Sand bags?
Bipod?
How do you eliminate the shooter as a source?
I'm looking at this:
Attachment 24517
$189 from Reloaders in Auckland.
How many of you use such things?
People that can't shoot accurately :D
Bipod front and bags rear for me, way I would any time to take a precise shot
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Originally Posted by tui_man2
I use a rear bag and a bipod, and as long as I'm disciplined, it works well
the purpose of testing is to test the ammunition, not the shooter - as you have said.
Without going to a full bench rest setup(perhaps not even then) , theres no real way to eliminate the shooter ....
$189 looks like a good deal though ..
Admittedly, I'm looking to cheat - I know my shooting changes day to day.
So, if I remove myself from the equation (as mentioned), I should be able to form a very quick and clear picture of the accuracy of the ammo I'm trying :)
$189 does seem like a worthy cause.
Eliminate the shooter? The relationship between rifle and shooter is completely unique. A rifle that shoots better in a vice is only good for that
go the bags - and get a REALLY good bipod like an Atlas or something
Using a simple plain-jane Harris (not a Remington or other cheap knock-off)
I'll grab a bag for the weekends shoot and see how I go :D
Bipod and rear bag, if you can't shoot well with that you are doing something seriously wrong.
I use a cadwell lead Sled.
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I have the big lead sled but just use my short br bipod and back sandbags and generally for the serious accuracy work shoot of our bench rest that we built out of old 8' strainers thumped in and some old 6x2.
I would only use a led sled if I was shooting a hard recoiling rifle other wise a waste of money
I have personally never used a sled but agree with bipod and rear bag or front and rear bag setup.
It's extra practice and as well as doing load development you are also seeing where your going wrong as well shooting wise.
Also depending on your development technique it's not ALL about shooting pin hole groups.
http://www.6mmbr.com/laddertest.html
Double post.
I use a 'caldwell THE ROCK' as per photo with a rear bag on a bench at the correct and comfortable height. works very well.Attachment 24527
How much does a jack like that cost from supercheap auto?
I imagine it would cost jack :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Toby
I like that idea. Might make me one just cause I can. I'll probably get a free jack from the scrap yard
For load development I use a Rock Jnr as a front rest and rear bag for under the butt. I am shooting off a concrete bench when doing this and it gives me the most stable position available when load developing for my rifles. Removing as much human error as possible is important here, as I am testing the rifle/reload for accuracy, not myself.
All other shooting i.e. sighting in, drop chart validation, practice, is done prone on a shooting mat with my Harris and a rear bag.
Exactly. If I know (and can see) the rifle and ammo combination is spot-on, then any deviations in accuracy has to be me :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan
Local wreckers $15 for the last on that I gotQuote:
Originally Posted by Toby
Or just use a pillow case half full of sand front and back
Attachment 24646
I use one of these cheapy plastic things. Ok for testing loads. Not so good on the shoulder if you use factory 45-70s.
Got one for free, will take it with me tomorrow and weld it to a bit of steel and bend the top bit out find some foam or something and finishedQuote:
Originally Posted by Toby
@Toby Change the bottom pivots to bolts as my picture to take out the 'slop' in the pivot. 50x25x3 RHS gives it a bit of weight in the base.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toby
Attachment 24682 made this one at work which works very well but I tend to shoot over a pack or single front bag
toby just nik the one out of your mums corolla then its free:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Toby
but seriously bag and a sand sock works well cheap and effective as i learnt from ryan cleckner on you tube has some epic information in his videos
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...4&feature=plcp
I use to shoot off a front and rear bag I found when I switched to a bipod and rear bag I started getting vertical strings
if the shooter has no trigger control or proper breathing technique the group will be crap no matter what he or she uses that being said
this is my set up it works for me
Shooting of a rest set up is very good for learning sight picture and trigger control. It'll improve your general shooting quite a bit.
That scissor jack idea is real neat! I'm going to copy it if you don't mind. I have an extra jack lying around somewhere.
