Thread: Ultimate compact rifle & catrige - 6mmGT/22GT in howa mini action

Originally Posted by hey

which page you want me to look at, gimp? there are 53 of them

53 pages of the .223 being effectively demonstrated to be the most practical ultimate cartridge of any size, let alone compact.

not sure about that claim. I have shot a fallow with 69smk at the range of 50M, hit in the lung, watch it bolted. Then spent quite lot time to track it down. It is dead about 50m away, but in the thick bush it is very difficult to track it, no blood trial at all. I've also watch a friend shot a red hind with is 223, again it hit the chest, same thing, bolted and that time we could not find it. I agree shot placement here is the key for 223. but more speed/energy can't go wrong

Originally Posted by hey

not sure about that claim. I have shot a fallow with 69smk at the range of 50M, hit in the lung, watch it bolted. Then spent quite lot time to track it down. It is dead about 50m away, but in the thick bush it is very difficult to track it, no blood trial at all. I've also watch a friend shot a red hind with is 223, again it hit the chest, same thing, bolted and that time we could not find it. I agree shot placement here is the key for 223. but more speed/energy can't go wrong

You lost me after "spent a lot of time to track it down"...I use a .308 with 100 grain hollowpoints for fallow...I squeeze the trigger.. deer falls over dead. Sorted.

Originally Posted by Ranger 888

You lost me after "spent a lot of time to track it down"...I use a .308 with 100 grain hollowpoints for fallow...I squeeze the trigger.. deer falls over dead. Sorted.

Well, that was the time when AR was still around, was the last time I shot deer with 223

Originally Posted by gimp

53 pages of the .223 being effectively demonstrated to be the most practical ultimate cartridge of any size, let alone compact.

What a hater ��

Originally Posted by gimp

53 pages of the .223 being effectively demonstrated to be the most practical ultimate cartridge of any size, let alone compact.

Thats one way to look at it.

Another might be that there are around 780 posts in that thread of which 164 give or take were by one member (21% of total posts). Now he is clearly a very experienced hunter who knows where his gun shoots and knows the limitations of it. However, he is shooting in a farm situation at animals that allow him to take his time and pick his shots. Most are of smaller deer and not large heavy bodied animals. Almost all of the other deer shown are of a similar type.
After about page 15 there are only a few new posters to the thread with just the same old people reinforcing the same opinion in the echo chamber the thread has become.

The 223 is a very versatile cartridge that deserves a place in every one's gun rack. It is an excellent young person's first center fire. Used by experienced hunters who know its limitations and are happy to pass up on marginal shots it is fine.

However, as an all-round, one deer cartridge to rule them all it is not.

Originally Posted by Got-ya

Thats one way to look at it.

Another might be that there are around 780 posts in that thread of which 164 give or take were by one member (21% of total posts). Now he is clearly a very experienced hunter who knows where his gun shoots and knows the limitations of it. However, he is shooting in a farm situation at animals that allow him to take his time and pick his shots. Most are of smaller deer and not large heavy bodied animals. Almost all of the other deer shown are of a similar type.
After about page 15 there are only a few new posters to the thread with just the same old people reinforcing the same opinion in the echo chamber the thread has become.

The 223 is a very versatile cartridge that deserves a place in every one's gun rack. It is an excellent young person's first center fire. Used by experienced hunters who know its limitations and are happy to pass up on marginal shots it is fine.

However, as an all-round, one deer cartridge to rule them all it is not.

He is also 74 years old and what you have read is only a snap shot of his most recent experiences with the .223, along with the addition of your assumptions. Gimp, is correct of course.

But as said a couple posts back "if YOU want a 22GT on a Howa Mini, fill ya F*ckn boots mate..."