Thread: Unusual powder help!

I have some Norma 203 and some ICI Nobel No. 1
Can anybody tell me some data or equivalents?

Cheers

Powder equivalents, ADI Powders Handloaders' Guide
Below is loading data of the Norma site.
http://normapowder.com/wp-content/up...areloading.pdf

I had a quick look and cant find anything for the Nobel powder.

Hope this helps

I have some info on Nobel Powders

Might have to wait a bit I'm afraid, just waiting for my Taxi ...... New Years Eve Shed Party just about to kick off.

It's Cocktail Night Theme so planning on getting Mai Tai'ed and B52'ed and what ever else the Girls mix up.

Cheers
Pete

Cheers Jim,

Nice one Pete!

I look forward to hearing what info you have when you are able, I'm 3 sheets to the wind myself!

@robh500

Here's a copy of a powder burn rate comparison chart from the Reloaders Nest Website that lists the Nobel Powders.

Powder Burn Rate Comparison Chart @ www.reloadersnest.com

Number 1 powder on this list is the fastest burning powder and number 267 is the slowest burning powder

As you already probably know Nobel Powders are designated by numbers but also by also by firearm type e.g. Rifle powders, Pistol Powders, Revolver powders and Shotgun powders.

The prefix's being
Rifle = RIF followed by the number
Pistol = PIS followed by the number
Revolver = Rev followed by the number
Shotgun = NOB followed by the number
It's important not to get these mixed up.

Firstly you have to find out if your Nobel No1 Powder is Rifle, Pistol or Revolver powder (shotgun powders start with no 78) this should be written on the Tin.


Once that's determined you can look it up on the Burn Rate Chart for equivalent powders and use the data for these powders as your starting point when working up your loads.

Always use caution and start with minimum powder loads.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Pete

Bloody awesome Pete, cheers heaps.

It looks like the Nobel rifle no. 1 is somewhere between 2206 and 2207
The Norma 203 I can't find any data on.

It would be good to hear from anyone who has used these powders and what calibres they used them in.

I have several unopened tins that I don't want to waste.

Cheers

Robh500

Check out these 2206 2207 equivalents for Nobel Rifle 1 powder on ADI's website

Powder equivalents, ADI Powders Handloaders' Guide

You'll also see Norma 203 listed on this page as N203 which is almost equivalent to AR 2209

I'd use this Nobel powder for .223 & .308 and use the Norma powder for .243

Cheers
Pete

I have got an ICI Nobel manual dated 1963.
It has some listings for; Pistol powder 1, 2, and 3
Revolver powder 1
Rifle powder 0, 1, 2, and 3
If you are after a specific caliber let me know and I will see if it is listed.

robh500 - what calibre you thinking of using the Norma for? I had a tin of 203 a year or so ago and used it with great success in my 22-250. I have an old Norma booklet here somewhere, cant find it at present, but it gives all the Norma factory loads with the various powders.

Thanks for all the help guys, I would be most interested in any 223 data as I will try to use it in my AR
I also load for 308 and 6.5 creedmoor.

Pete, do you have any starting data for the Nobel rifle no. 1 for 55gr .223?
If I can that's what I will use it in.

Cheers
Rob

Originally Posted by robh500

Thanks for all the help guys, I would be most interested in any 223 data as I will try to use it in my AR
I also load for 308 and 6.5 creedmoor.

Pete, do you have any starting data for the Nobel rifle no. 1 for 55gr .223?
If I can that's what I will use it in.

Cheers
Rob

Rob

I dug out my old Nick Harvey Reloading Manual published in 1982 and he has some loads listed for Nobel Rifle No1 in .223 as shown below.

As usual start with the minimum load and proceed with caution.

Chronograph your loads and compare the results with the speeds listed.
This will give you a good indication on how the powder is actually performing.



Let us know how you get on.

Hope this helps

Cheers
Pete

You are a top man @P38 Pete.

Hopefully I will get to try some on Monday and will let you know.

Cheers heaps

No worries Rob

Post up your results so we can see what the Nobel powder does for you.

BTW

I have two tins of this Powder c/o a Gentleman who once commanded part of Ian Smiths Army.

10 points for each if you can tell me who manufactured it and what Powder/s it is approximately equivalent to.

I'd be very keen to hear from anyone that can post any reloading data for this powder this too.

For those that have looked carefully enough Yes that manufacturing date is correct September 1976.

Cheers
Pete

BTW I do have some load data, curtsey of the original owner, for this powder and currently use it in my 308 with good results.

Thanks for all the help guys, I got to try out 5 loads up to max listed in my 20" match barreled AR with 55gr Hornady and only got 1.2" groups and 2860 with it. No pressure signs at 26.0 but very hot cases when ejected, also not much more room in them for more powder. I will try some more loads in another month, back to the jungle for another 28 days now :-(