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    What components do I need?

    New to reloading, and I'm looking to replicate (roughly) the performance of Federal 150gr rounds. I have the Federal brass, so what else do I need?

    There seems to be a lot of conflicting info in regards to reloading .308.

    I guess I should mention I'm shooting it out of a Howa with a 22" barrel.

    Any help would be appreciated.

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    Are the 150 grain projectiles soft points?

    Also to replicate you might need to know the OAL of the Factory Federals.
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    dies and a press is a good start
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    They are soft points yes, and I do have some unfired factory rounds so I could measure them.

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    dies and a press is a good start

    Got those

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    Dies, press, deburer,scales, funnel,primers ,projectiles, powder(2208 or n140 are good starts)
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    a good question is what do you have already?

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    I have all the required hardware, it's mostly the projectiles and powder I'm concerned about. Was going to go with Federal large rifle primers. Is one 150gr proj the same as the next?

    (2208 or n140 are good starts)
    Theses are the sort of numbers I'm interested in.

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    Reloading manual and read it a couple times before start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by username View Post
    Reloading manual and read it a couple times before start.
    This above.
    Then get some hornady interlock.
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    a dont think you will match the round but 2208 would be a good start, easy to get
    any reason you want soft points? lots of better projos around
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    Quote Originally Posted by longrange308 View Post
    a dont think you will match the round but 2208 would be a good start, easy to get
    any reason you want soft points? lots of better projos around
    Better than soft points in what way, are you talking about FMJ as all sporting rounds are soft points. You have soft points with plastic tips otherwise known as crap projectiles, hollow points are also fitted with plastic tips and are not much better as they are sharp and make holes in the pocket of your shorts. There is also the lead tipped soft points which are probably the most effective for New Zealand hunting.

    The mono metal projectiles are only better for the manufacturer as they have the opportunity to take money off the losers they convince that they are better. The old marketing adage of "if you can't blind them with science just baffle them with bullshit" applies in this case. These are all about perceived value, nothing to do with performance. Just making money off suckers you can hoodwink. I know because this is what I do for a job. Convincing suckers to shell out more money than they need to by convincing them they are getting an imaginary benefit. We laugh every time we take these idiots for a ride and count the money going in our pockets.

    That is the unfortunate truth with our modern economic system but it works and gives me the money to spend on hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 260hunter View Post
    Better than soft points in what way, are you talking about FMJ as all sporting rounds are soft points. You have soft points with plastic tips otherwise known as crap projectiles, hollow points are also fitted with plastic tips and are not much better as they are sharp and make holes in the pocket of your shorts. There is also the lead tipped soft points which are probably the most effective for New Zealand hunting.

    The mono metal projectiles are only better for the manufacturer as they have the opportunity to take money off the losers they convince that they are better. The old marketing adage of "if you can't blind them with science just baffle them with bullshit" applies in this case. These are all about perceived value, nothing to do with performance. Just making money off suckers you can hoodwink. I know because this is what I do for a job. Convincing suckers to shell out more money than they need to by convincing them they are getting an imaginary benefit. We laugh every time we take these idiots for a ride and count the money going in our pockets.

    That is the unfortunate truth with our modern economic system but it works and gives me the money to spend on hunting.
    Wow so you tried say an amax against a core lock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 260hunter View Post
    Better than soft points in what way, are you talking about FMJ as all sporting rounds are soft points. You have soft points with plastic tips otherwise known as crap projectiles, hollow points are also fitted with plastic tips and are not much better as they are sharp and make holes in the pocket of your shorts. There is also the lead tipped soft points which are probably the most effective for New Zealand hunting.

    The mono metal projectiles are only better for the manufacturer as they have the opportunity to take money off the losers they convince that they are better. The old marketing adage of "if you can't blind them with science just baffle them with bullshit" applies in this case. These are all about perceived value, nothing to do with performance. Just making money off suckers you can hoodwink. I know because this is what I do for a job. Convincing suckers to shell out more money than they need to by convincing them they are getting an imaginary benefit. We laugh every time we take these idiots for a ride and count the money going in our pockets.

    That is the unfortunate truth with our modern economic system but it works and gives me the money to spend on hunting.
    At least you have the balls to declare you are a fucking scum bag by what you have just written but because you wrote it we don't believe you know what your are talking about anymore.because you have used truth and bullshit in the same stupid post.Do you sell projectiles? make them? or just think you know ? or are you trying to hoodwink us into believing your smart?.all hunting projectiles kill animals effectively as long as they hit there mark IMO
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    Yeah I'm not stuck on soft points, if there is better out there then I'll definitely look into them.

    I downloaded a huge .rar file full of reloading books, I may be some time lol

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    Theres two ways to look at this question,
    1st, if you want to replicate the federal factory load, you need to get some speer hot core 150g projectiles thht is what federal use.
    then chronograph the factory loads as a base line.
    Then load up the speer projies to the same oal as the factory loads with a charge of powder like adi ar2208, working from a charge of 44 grains to 47 grains, chronograph the loads till you achieve the same speed as the factory loads.
    this will get you very close to the factory load.
    why you would want to do that? I dont know, but none the less. There it is.
    if however, you were happy with the performance of the federal factory ammo, may I suggest you could put the same level of effort and cost, towards a better quality projectile and instead of getting what you could buy for 40 bucks, you could have a custom load that will give you the best accuracy and velocities that YOUR rifle can produse. It will no doubt be far better than what you could get from a packet of $40 factory ammo.
    oh, and it will cost less too.
    greg
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