Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

DPT Alpine


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 16
Like Tree20Likes

Thread: What a mission! 260 Load

  1. #1
    Member stagstalker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    North Island, New Zealand
    Posts
    2,173

    What a mission! 260 Load

    Well I finally got there but I feel aged from the process. Load sorted for the new 19" Tikka 260.

    As we all know, supply in certain areas for ammunition is very bad so ended up grabbing some 142 Nosler Long Range Accubonds and using some powders I had available. Not normally the projectile I would go for due to the price but they look the business.

    Teamed up with Peterson brass we got into it. Started with Rel 19 but didn't get the speed I was after. Tried 2209 (I have a very small amount left) same again, speed no good. Tried Rel 17 and ahah good speeds. Tried some groups in my speed ranges and it shot well. Shot them again and they shot poor. Wtf. Scratching head.

    Decided to chase down a powder that a few of you have success with, fairy dust Rel 26. Gave it whirl starting low and working up, speeds good, accuracy again looking promising but not convincing. Ran some more loads and got reasonable results but just nothing giving me confidence. Without diving into details I went through a range of tests with seating depth and powder charges to try find what the heck it wanted.

    Today after establishing where I think it likes to be seated I once again ran some powder charges starting with what I thought was the good one but included a couple of others just in case. Surprise surprise the one I thought would go well went poor and my very last one went very well! For the sake of "I wonder" I had also included the old Rel 17 charge using the new seating depth and it shot well. Ok, its done this before and I have been disappointed on the follow up confirmations shoots so thought bugger it. Shot home and loaded some more straight away and back to the range. Boomfa she's still on point, Rel 17 shot well again too.

    Im usually a low fuss 0.5gr increment sorta guy but in this case 0.2gr both up and down is the difference between shooting outstanding and shooting average (theories on this?). One fussy little combo but just over 100 rounds later (yep you read the right) we have got there (I think). Time to whack some gongs and hit the hills. Final load being the 142 ABLR doing 2700fps in front of 48.6gr Rel 26 at 55 thou jump with the 43.5gr Rel 17 load shooting same POI and speed for a backup.


    Cheers to @Kelton , @superdiver and @25 /08 IMP for the 260 advice throughout!
    Attached Images Attached Images   

  2. #2
    Member outdoorlad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    3,006
    I think the LRAB like a bit of jump from the reading I did, I used the 129 in my 6.5x55 and they killed very well the 142 should be good too.

    In my 260 I’m using the Sierra 130gn gamechanger with superformance, I’m very happy with them.
    25 /08 IMP and rewa like this.
    Shut up, get out & start pushing!

  3. #3
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    North Canterbury
    Posts
    5,462
    Regarding the charge and seat depth increments, have you watched any of Eric Cortina's youtube vids ? I had never heard of him until some were posted here on the Forum. I am now a convert. From watching Eric. I now understand the what and why.
    I have been loading 140 AB's for a 270 recently and increased seat depth from 20 thou to 150thou. for a dramatic improvement. The factory OAL gives a seat depth that is 300 thou off the lands in my rifle. With these hybrid Ogive bullets maybe we are better off at the factory / SAMI OAL
    csmiffy likes this.

  4. #4
    GWH
    GWH is offline
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Napier, Hawkes Bay
    Posts
    4,460
    Quote Originally Posted by Moa Hunter View Post
    Regarding the charge and seat depth increments, have you watched any of Eric Cortina's youtube vids ? I had never heard of him until some were posted here on the Forum. I am now a convert. From watching Eric. I now understand the what and why.
    I have been loading 140 AB's for a 270 recently and increased seat depth from 20 thou to 150thou. for a dramatic improvement. The factory OAL gives a seat depth that is 300 thou off the lands in my rifle. With these hybrid Ogive bullets maybe we are better off at the factory / SAMI OAL
    I hope you didnt test in 3 thou increments to get to 150 thou from 20 thou !!! ��
    chainsaw, Moa Hunter and Noswal like this.

  5. #5
    Member Mathias's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Canterbury, home of the big Rakaia Red Stag
    Posts
    4,486
    Shame the projectile choice is so low at the moment, as there are better choices to be had over LRAB's. I've always struggled to get them to the same accuracy as ELD's. They are bloody hard too, good if you like stack a couple of animals together and get two with the one shot

  6. #6
    Member bunji's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    South Island - Gods Own Country
    Posts
    944
    Great looking set up & perseverance to get it working ,are 260's normally finicky to load for ?
    ariki likes this.

  7. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Wanganui
    Posts
    3,243
    Quote Originally Posted by bunji View Post
    Great looking set up & perseverance to get it working ,are 260's normally finicky to load for ?
    The lrab is notoriously fussy

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    1,527
    Quote Originally Posted by bunji View Post
    Great looking set up & perseverance to get it working ,are 260's normally finicky to load for ?
    Not sako or Tikka I usually load 143 ELDX and they all shoot very well.
    The LRAB can be a bit fussy but I got lucky with a couple of rifles I had but silly me I sold them both.
    Hodgdon superprofrmance or RL 26 is your friend in .260

    Sent from my CPH1903 using Tapatalk

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Fielding-ish
    Posts
    572
    You might also try what seem like ridiculous 'jumps' to the lands. Many a 6.5, I've owned over the years, has liked up to 2mm. I noticed this particularly with long throat-leads, but even tighter-specs liked it around a mil. I got higher velocities with much lower pressures too.
    stagstalker likes this.

  10. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    214
    https://precisionrifleblog.com/2020/...elopment-data/

    Went straight to 0.050 for my 143gr ELD-X and the 129gr ABLR in two different rifles and to my surprise it gave me the best nodes regardless gr of powder. Should be all good even after some erosion in years to come.
    stagstalker likes this.

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Invervegas
    Posts
    5,152
    All of the above or you might just have struck what's been bugging me. I couldn't see a pattern of improvement with the 6mm CM I've been loading for.

    Borrowed a Concentricity guage and guess what - heaps of run-out. Now past loads I've done for other calibers have shot just fine but this combination of technique, equipment (press and dies) and components (long pointy projectiles) managed to thwart me. I now have some concentric loads to shoot so haven't "proven the pudding" yet but there's no way what I was trying before was going to go well (7 thou plus run-out on quite a few)
    stagstalker likes this.

  12. #12
    Member stagstalker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    North Island, New Zealand
    Posts
    2,173
    Interesting, i’ve picked up some 135 Classic Hunters that I will have a play with sometime in the new year too

  13. #13
    Member outdoorlad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    3,006
    Quote Originally Posted by stagstalker View Post
    Interesting, i’ve picked up some 135 Classic Hunters that I will have a play with sometime in the new year too
    They kill well, although I didn’t shoot anything under a 150yds with them.
    stagstalker likes this.
    Shut up, get out & start pushing!

  14. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    North Shore Auck
    Posts
    643
    Quote Originally Posted by Tentman View Post
    All of the above or you might just have struck what's been bugging me. I couldn't see a pattern of improvement with the 6mm CM I've been loading for.

    Borrowed a Concentricity guage and guess what - heaps of run-out. Now past loads I've done for other calibers have shot just fine but this combination of technique, equipment (press and dies) and components (long pointy projectiles) managed to thwart me. I now have some concentric loads to shoot so haven't "proven the pudding" yet but there's no way what I was trying before was going to go well (7 thou plus run-out on quite a few)
    Do not automatically assume that your problem is "run-out". Test the best first , you may find out your rifle is more forgiving than you think?. Or then again it may just be a fussy bitch after all?. You never know until you try .

  15. #15
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    1,527
    Quote Originally Posted by stagstalker View Post
    Interesting, i’ve picked up some 135 Classic Hunters that I will have a play with sometime in the new year too
    Let me Know if you want to try some ELDX or 129 SP interlock. I could spare 20 or so for you to try so when they are available you will be good to go.

    Sent from my CPH1903 using Tapatalk

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Vld quick load for a mission
    By Kelton in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10-05-2020, 12:23 AM
  2. Rat Mission
    By Lucky in forum Varminting and Small Game Hunting
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 27-04-2020, 09:23 PM
  3. First solo mission
    By Nickman in forum Hunting
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 16-11-2019, 02:24 PM
  4. Yesterdays mission
    By EVILWAYZ in forum Hunting
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 06-11-2014, 12:23 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!