Thread: When to anneal cases

Anneal before or after resizing?
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Before

Originally Posted by stug

Before

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Always before.

Yep before, and before they need it too, if you wait for too many firings then you'll see inconsistent neck tension from round to round depending on if they have been recently annealed or not.

Originally Posted by GWH

Yep before, and before they need it too, if you wait for too many firings then you'll see inconsistent neck tension from round to round depending on if they have been recently annealed or not.

And do they need to be cleaned first?

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I clean mine first, then give them a wipe over after annealing.
No idea if its the ‘correct way’ but it works for me

Originally Posted by 25 /08 IMP

And do they need to be cleaned first?

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Yep clean first.

For me that's spin the neck in 0000 wire wool and run a plastic brush thru inside of neck. I don't own a tumbler

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Lost count of every firing so just do it every time as a first step before doing anything else. I do the gas, drill and deep socket method. Got burnt to many times so it's done over the sink and drop cases into water (dip socket when getting too hot) with a little dish washing liquid and lemon juice as cases are getting wet might as well clean at same time. Then as a batch when still wet, once in & out neck brush, rinse with very hot water, roll around in big towel, put somewhere sunny or hot water cupboard to dry. With right angle, light, drill speed and flame distance you can see the ring of anneal forming (a split hair second before going bright glow) as the case spins and this ring moves down the neck just past the shoulder then tip into sink. You learn to ignore old carbon burn off flame and exactly when the ring happens after doing a lot of cases over the years. it's quick. It is also a bit like scooping powder, you just get to know if each scoop is under or over and become good at estimating exactly to the last single grain of powder to count off for the last trickle to get a perfect beam balance.

Originally Posted by Slug

Lost count of every firing so just do it every time as a first step before doing anything else. I do the gas, drill and deep socket method. Got burnt to many times so it's done over the sink and drop cases into water (dip socket when getting too hot) with a little dish washing liquid and lemon juice as cases are getting wet might as well clean at same time. Then as a batch when still wet, once in & out neck brush, rinse with very hot water, roll around in big towel, put somewhere sunny or hot water cupboard to dry. With right angle, light, drill speed and flame distance you can see the ring of anneal forming (a split hair second before going bright glow) as the case spins and this ring moves down the neck just past the shoulder then tip into sink. You learn to ignore old carbon burn off flame and exactly when the ring happens after doing a lot of cases over the years. it's quick. It is also a bit like scooping powder, you just get to know if each scoop is under or over and become good at estimating exactly to the last single grain of powder to count off for the last trickle to get a perfect beam balance.

@Slug what gas torch do you use?

Originally Posted by GWH

Yep clean first.

For me that's spin the neck in 0000 wire wool and run a plastic brush thru inside of neck. I don't own a tumbler

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A simple tumbler is next on the to do list.

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Originally Posted by winaa

@Slug what gas torch do you use?

https://www.placemakers.co.nz/produc...pro-torch-kit/

Use the blue gas bottle with it.

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I anneal clean cases every reloading prior to sizing.

Originally Posted by Tikka7mm08

I anneal clean cases every reloading prior to sizing.

Used to leave it for about three reloads but since I acquired an AMP annealer I do it every reload before firing because it's so easy to use.

I anneal each firing, as it's just so quick and simple. I am using my own version of the 'Skips' annealer and have hooked the torch up to a 9Kg gas bottle making gas cost of little concern to me. Also with the speed controllers and my notes set up is quick. I just set my machine to the last setting used for that cartridge, let the torch and motors warm up for a few mins and then run 1 case with tempilaq to check and I'm away...

30mins from everything away in the cupboard to set up, anneal 100 cases and then pack away again!