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    I posted a warning about Win LR primers way back (not this forum). All I got was a lot of dribble about hot loads from know-alls. Changed to Fedral 210's and never looked back. Did nasty things to a Win Mod 70 308,and a Tikka 243 bolt-face before I had figured it out though
    Never had the same problem with the Win SR primers though.....

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    Here is a picture I got sent of what can happen if you fail to recognise there is a problem......

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    Yuk!
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    "Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.

    308Win One chambering to rule them all.

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    Yip i had 4 do it before i discovered the pitting. photos shit but u get the jist
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    If you spend a couple of minutes on Google there is a few pics etc to be found.

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    They will know and would do fuck all if i complained other than give me more shitty primers. Pick your battles.

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    The usual explanation from the primer companies is that the primers have been exposed to ammonia ions after leaving the manufacturer .
    This etches the stressed part of the primer cup leaving a week point which fails under normal pressure.

    Federal had this happen with small rifle primers years ago.
    I use Rem 7.5 sr primers in 6 PPC .

    Pity as the Winchester plated primers were very good.

    The Russian primers do not seem to have this problem.

    Glenn

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    I asked my club armourer and he's saying he thinks its possibly the old batch of winchester primers that came in and did this some years ago now being sold again due to the shortages. Certainly if Id bought these recently I'd be going back to the gunshop and getting them to pay for a new bolt.

    After that there is always the disputes tribunal.

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    Had the same problem a year or so ago so told the importer about it, it was the first they had heard about it apparently so wanted the batch numbers and any remaining primers returned (plus any of the fired ones that had failed). Replaced them with no problems (I chose CCI's for the replacements).

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    Same issue just cropped up here. Lot number DFL713G.

    Previous cartons of un-plated have been OK.

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    How did I miss this thread!!!.Bought some winny primers a while ago they were cheap(first mistake) had been using fed lr primers no dramas then finally ran out swithched to winny for Hihitahi shoot and found out the hardway poped primers blown primers stuck case the list goes on.They are bloddy messy and totally unreliable and after only a few shots my bolt faced was scared up now pitted( I continued shooting as im stubburn and will now end up buying another bolt....second mistake).Ive tken some pics not good as ive got a shyte camera(third mistake).
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    Yep mate they totally fucked the face of the bolt head on my long range rifle (severely pitted the face and welded the ejector pin to the bolt head) and I have been out of commission for over four months now, waiting for replacement parts. Winchester should buy us both a new rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    Yep mate they totally fucked the face of the bolt head on my long range rifle (severely pitted the face and welded the ejector pin to the bolt head) and I have been out of commission for over four months now, waiting for replacement parts. Winchester should buy us both a new rifle.
    Gutting mate, I love my rifle and this has really annoyed me. Lesson learnt im moving on and going back to Fed primers.
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