Thread: Winchester primer fail

An experienced reloader mate contacted me the other day with a serious problem.

He was loading some 7-08 bullets with 139s & 2209 for some young guys.

He was extremely concerned that the starting loads did this.



I'm not sure how old the primers are, but you can clearly see where they had pierced on the edge of them.

I think only two or three did this & they have gas cut the bolt face

I showed him some images off Google of exactly the same thing.

He got some different primers so will be good to go.

What primers did you suggest, I've been told that some makes are slightly larger?

Originally Posted by nor-west

What primers did you suggest, I've been told that some makes are slightly larger?

They don't need to be larger, they just need to not get a hole in them.....

I rememeber this happening to me. You told me the same thing about google. Happens a bit which is a bugger cause I still have a few thousand here

That would piss you off with something in the scope

I have had that happen three times with Winchester LR primers in one packet. Tossed what was left and have gone to another brand. They still fire ok but make a mess of the bolt face. It is the brass coloured ones that fail. Never had any problems with the silver ones.

Originally Posted by Shearer

I have had that happen three times with Winchester LR primers in one packet. Tossed what was left and have gone to another brand. They still fire ok but make a mess of the bolt face. It is the brass coloured ones that fail. Never had any problems with the silver ones.

Yep I went off the Winchester ones years ago when they changed from Silver to brass.

I use mainly Fed 215 & CCI 450s now.

Nasty.

Thanks for posting this also happened to me. People tried to tell me i was overloading when i knew i wasnt. Confused the fuck out of me. Now my bolts a mess. Thanks winchester u fuckers!

Originally Posted by username

Thanks for posting this also happened to me. People tried to tell me i was overloading when i knew i wasnt. Confused the fuck out of me. Now my bolts a mess. Thanks winchester u fuckers!

Yep we caught it in time, luckily not damaged any club guns. I'd suggest going to the seller of the primer and asking for a new bolt.

I posted a warning about Win LR primers way back (not this forum). All I got was a lot of dribble about hot loads from know-alls. Changed to Fedral 210's and never looked back. Did nasty things to a Win Mod 70 308,and a Tikka 243 bolt-face before I had figured it out though
Never had the same problem with the Win SR primers though.....

Here is a picture I got sent of what can happen if you fail to recognise there is a problem......

Have had exactly the same problem with Murom primers, rifle owners not amused!

Originally Posted by killroy

Have had exactly the same problem with Murom primers, rifle owners not amused!

Large or small rifle primers ? I've found some aren't seating properly in some brass for small rifle, but CCI's work just fine.

Originally Posted by killroy

Have had exactly the same problem with Murom primers, rifle owners not amused!

I'm using Murom small rifle primers, no problems.
I heard it was their pistol primers that had the issue, hence Reloaders in Auckland won't sell the pistol primers, only small and large rifle.