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Going to be honest you just seem like a plain c@*t. But you literally posted something that is not useful in any world bitching about his post being useless. Its pretty simple all he's adding is that they tend to have a preference for a weight class which I dont often find true in modern cartridges. Just means check a range of weights before going down the rabbit hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by CheekiBreeki
Calm the farm please! :)
Greetings Bumblefoot,
Having read through this thread and revisited your earlier one I suspect your head may be spinning. Hopefully, without adding any more confusion, here is my take on loads and loading the .303 with a Lee Loader.
Case Prep.
Sort out a batch of your empties with the same head stamp and decap them and give them a good clean. A rub with a Scotchbrite to any grubby area and a buff up with a Chux is all you need. Next try them in your rifle chamber to ensure the bolt closes without too much effort. If it doesn't you will need to find someone with a press and a .303 FL die to size them just enough to chamber. Trim them with your Lee trimmer and chamfer inside and out, especially on the inside. This helps with seating the projectile. If the primer has been crimped in place you will need to remove the crimp with a small knife. Now you are ready to size.
Sizing and Capping.
Follow the directions that came with your Lee kit and go easy seating the primer.
Loads.
With the 150 grain projectile I would suggest 36 grains of H4895 which is the start load listed By Hodgdon. I have loaded 34 grains of AR2206H, which is exactly the same powder as H4895, which shot very well in my .303. 36 grains should produce about 2,200 fps in your rifle. I would fire some of these loads to check for accuracy and that the fired cases chambered freely. You may also note that the primer has backed out a little. This is good. You may wish to stop at this point but if not you could try 37 and 38 grains of H4895. I wouldn't bother working up in small increments as the aim is to find a load that allow the cases to be reloaded using the Lee Loader and give acceptable accuracy. I used 38 grains of AR2206H behind the 150 grain projectile in my .308 as a soft target load. These were only neck sized and never needed FL sizing. In fact a tight case fired with this load chambered freely thereafter.
In summary I suspect that somewhere between 36 and 38 grains of H4895 you will find a happy spot that gives acceptable accuracy and velocity plus allowing the cases to be reloaded in the Lee Loader repeatedly.
Regards Grandpamac.
@grandpamac Thank you so much. I've got a heap of Highland/PPU brass that has been shot through this rifle. Funny; like a dork I bought a set of full length dies by mistake! I saw the dipper in the ad and automatically thought it was a Lee Loader without reading the ad properly... Dumb-arse moment.... However; the dies have the new 2.8g spoon and charge page which is helpful. I am still thinking about getting a press so will keep the dies in case I have to do the occasional FL re-size. If not; I'll sell them. Here's the new charge sheet
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Greetings Bumblefoot,Quote:
Originally Posted by bumblefoot
I would definitely hang on to those FL dies. With them you only need to find someone with a press. FL sizing for a .303 takes some care. You only want to size the case just enough to chamber and no more. I start with the die a couple of turns away form the shell holder and turn the die down about 1/8 of a turn at a time until the case just chambers and no more. This is the key to decent case life with the .303. I was without a .303 in my cupboard for almost 40 years but still kept my dies. You just never know when you might need them.
Regards Grandpamac.
You also could have just pointed out that useful info you just added and said that. I would have learned something.Quote:
Originally Posted by CheekiBreeki
Its pretty simple to say I disagree and its possible to agree with someone on 1 thing and disagree on another. For example I have never found a rifle that shows any serious preference for an particular bullet weight unless it cant stabilize it. I personally think its usually how lucky you get with you starting seating depth. I may be wrong however and have got lucky but I've run 155s to 225s in the same 308 and 120s to 180s in 7mm08'and all would shoot similar groups once i got to playing with seating depth. So i kind of disagree with/am skeptical off those saying they have a strong preference but i dont go attack them as i dont know I just haven't found it to be true.
Regardless both of you seem to be at each others throats after reading your recent histories. How about keeping your squabbles to the threads they started in and try be civil in any others you happen to see each other or even better block each other as i cant see a mutual understanding happening.
This is great info and just what I was going to post when I saw you fretting about having brought full length dies.Quote:
Originally Posted by grandpamac
@grandpamac Yup; I'd probably just get a Lee Anniversary kit or similar. I just like basic stuff that gets the job done :) Plus; I'm really ony reloading for the fun and would never go through a heap of rounds because I'm not into target shooting etc.
