Thread: Air rifle advice

Hey team
Doing a bit of research on air rifles for my brother-in-law
He has rabbit issues to sort out and doesn't have a FAL
Personally id have him buy the best available and not have him missing and making the damn things gun shy.
He could rock into Guncity and they'd likely sell what ever they have on the shelf, id like him to have some options before spending.
Cheers guys

Not a PCP air rifle, as they do require a FAL

There are few people on here who know a lot about air rifles I’m sure they will help, but they may not be online until later in the day.

My air rifle knowledge is decades out of date. Personally, for non-PCP/FAL rifles, I would avoid the models that claim high FPS. Accuracy beats power every time and "high power" springers are hard to shoot well. I've heard good things about the Cometa brand.

Originally Posted by MB

My air rifle knowledge is decades out of date. Personally, for non-PCP/FAL rifles, I would avoid the models that claim high FPS. Accuracy beats power every time and "high power" springers are hard to shoot well. I've heard good things about the Cometa brand.

I could agree that accuracy is very important, but it does also need the energy to do the job. If specifically targeting small game, I would lean towards a .22 calibre air rifle. Bigger wound track etc. For a 22 cal Air rifle as peed of 800-1000 frps would work well and still stay below the speed of sound thus avoiding the loud "crack"....

Originally Posted by timattalon

I could agree that accuracy is very important, but it does also need the energy to do the job. If specifically targeting small game, I would lean towards a .22 calibre air rifle. Bigger wound track etc. For a 22 cal Air rifle as peed of 800-1000 frps would work well and still stay below the speed of sound thus avoiding the loud "crack"....

I was thinking the same thing. I’ve not used 22 air rifle myself but mostly I only used them as a kid. I’ve got a cheap one for pigeon but it’s low powered so as not to hole the aluminium roof on the shed. It’s a piece of shit.
He needs to kill everything he aims at, probably out to 50yds and it needs to be reliable.
NV would possibly be an option as well although he needs to get back to me with a budget.

Originally Posted by timattalon

I could agree that accuracy is very important, but it does also need the energy to do the job. If specifically targeting small game, I would lean towards a .22 calibre air rifle. Bigger wound track etc. For a 22 cal Air rifle as peed of 800-1000 frps would work well and still stay below the speed of sound thus avoiding the loud "crack"....

Sure. Quick online calculation. Even at 800 fps, a 15gr pellet would give a muzzle energy of 21.32 foot-pounds which should be plenty. My comment was really aimed at the marketing of crap like Gamo which use fps as a major selling point, claiming speeds of well over 1000 fps.

Originally Posted by MB

Sure. Quick online calculation. Even at 800 fps, a 15gr pellet would give a muzzle energy of 21.32 foot-pounds which should be plenty. My comment was really aimed at the marketing of crap like Gamo which use fps as a major selling point, claiming speeds of well over 1000 fps.

@MB And theres the rub...most brands market fps like its important...Hatsan 1250, Webley dominator 1350 et al...most struggle to actually achieve close to the posted speeds...more like this is what it gets if we round it up to the nearest big number.....Baikals on the other hand.....If Baikal marketed it as 1000fps, then when new and with normal pellets it would just exceed that, but after a bit of use and getting the mechanism all settled down it usually climbed and easily exceeded its posted speeds.....Pity they are so dam hard to get hold of.....the 513M was brilliant. Dearer than a 22LR but brilliant none the less....

One of the guys to talk to would be ron young in ak. Bit of a hassel but he wont sell you crap and knows his stuff..

Originally Posted by Noswal

Hey team
Doing a bit of research on air rifles for my brother-in-law
He has rabbit issues to sort out and doesn't have a FAL
Personally id have him buy the best available and not have him missing and making the damn things gun shy.
He could rock into Guncity and they'd likely sell what ever they have on the shelf, id like him to have some options before spending.
Cheers guys

My brother was I the same boat.
I ended up getting a .177 weirauch.
It's pretty impressive to be fair and good quality

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Originally Posted by andyanimal31

My brother was I the same boat.
I ended up getting a .177 weirauch.
It's pretty impressive to be fair and good quality

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Without a FAL? Or did you not see that bit

Weirach is very accurate ......in 0.177 does 600fps so not that powerful. Dianna FT are both powerful and accurate in 0.177. Well worth a look at them in 0.22.

My Dianna completely disintegrated a pellet hitting steel at 60yds so might stop a rabbit if hit well.Close up it goes through a 2" pine board......only downside is it's hard to cock, but for a big boy it might be OK.....!

Originally Posted by Longranger

Weirach is very accurate ......in 0.177 does 600fps so not that powerful. Dianna FT are both powerful and accurate in 0.177. Well worth a look at them in 0.22.

My Dianna completely disintegrated a pellet hitting steel at 60yds so might stop a rabbit if hit well.Close up it goes through a 2" pine board......only downside is it's hard to cock, but for a big boy it might be OK.....!

They’re the berries, wish I’d never sold my one!
Much of your accuracy will come from the make of pellet used.I bought a Camo for a local ….. problem. Accuracy was shit, until I paid 30 odd dollars for a pit of same weight pellets, like night and day

Originally Posted by Maca49

They’re the berries, wish I’d never sold my one!
Much of your accuracy will come from the make of pellet used.I bought a Camo for a local ….. problem. Accuracy was shit, until I paid 30 odd dollars for a pit of same weight pellets, like night and day

You need heavy pellets otherwise you will stuff the buffer on the piston....you should never sell a good gun, they are too hard to find........!

Originally Posted by andyanimal31

My brother was I the same boat.
I ended up getting a .177 weirauch.
It's pretty impressive to be fair and good quality

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killed literally thousands of rats with a break open version...40 yards was no problem at all. plenty of grunt and good accuracy.

I used a hw77 for a long time also had an early gamo hunter for long enough seemed to do the job as well