Thread: CCI segmented low velocity ammo

Originally Posted by Hiawatha

Can you report on the amount of ricochets with them? Sounds like you have used them a bit and maybe on stony ground? Thanks in advance

@Sidney is a lawyer and I doubt you can trick him into providing a non-ricochet warranty. The only safe assumption is that your next shot WILL ricochet and so your firing zone has to be as clear as usual.

That said, segmented bullets have a higher chance their rickochets will be as three or four smaller pieces of lead, but they're still ricochets.

Sidney is qualified but not practising. He struggles with the idea of the idea of being locked in a small dark room having to read copious amounts of complex fine print with aging eyes for lousy money.
However my friend is correct bout the CCI SEG low speed risk will be reduced over a large sample size, but not eliminated

Originally Posted by MB

Sounds like a nice little setup and preferable to PCP in my opinion.

Yea, that was my goal. Way cheaper outlay (already had the CZ sitting idle) than PCP, but not quite as accurate as my brothers .22PCP, and given the bullet weight difference, I suspect the PCP would have less ricochets.

Originally Posted by hotbarrels

I have a nickel coated CZ as a dedicated set up to shooting CCI quiets, both segmented and Waltz tool hollow pointed solids. Barrel is shortened and suppressed, and it has a Vortex Viper 2.5-10 FFP on top which I have sighted in at 5m increments and have stickers on the turret for easy dial up out to 55m.

As others have said, accuracy is pretty good out to 50m. Beyond that grouping would struggle to head shoot rabbits, so I only have it doped out to 55m and have set that as my practical limit.
The are super quiet. Suppressed, they are noticeably quieter than a suppressed PCP air rifle.
In terms of ricochets, I would treat it as if it was any other 22LR round as you never know when one will hold together and go further than expected.

Waltz tool hollow pointed solids, always wanted one, never any reply from Waltz USA. How did you get hold of it, would you like to sell it?

Originally Posted by flock

Waltz tool hollow pointed solids, always wanted one, never any reply from Waltz USA. How did you get hold of it, would you like to sell it?

Hi @flock

Sorry, only just saw your posting.
I imported it direct from Waltz 5-6 years ago at best guess. Sorry, its not for sale.

They work very well. I bought a couple slabs of CCI Standard at exceedingly good pricing back then, which only came in solids, then bought the tool to make them into hunting ammo.

I can HP around 500 an hour, so usually do a brick at a time and then put them into screw top plastic jars.
You have to strip the tool and clean it after every 50 rounds as the wax build-up in the dye will cause a crushed round. I just drop the HP forming pin out and push a .22 cal cleaning brush down through the top of the dye and all the wax pops out.

Originally Posted by Hiawatha

What I am wondering most about is whether the segmented projectile significantly reduces risk of ricochets and if anyone knows?

Thanks

I predominantly shoot the slightly higher speed CCI segmented subs. They still richochet, but the petals are small and not at all aerodynamic. Over 1000 rabbits and hares were shot with these, and 100% of the animals had 1 entry wound, and 3 secondary wound channels. The majority of the shots had 3 exit wounds, so the petals passed right through. I suspect the petals exiting a rabbit would not travel far, as shots over 80M tended to have at least one of the exiting petals caught under the skin.
I suspect the slower segmented silent variant of this round, would not have the bullet petals leaving the animal as often.

Shooting rocks - ricochet is almost guaranteed, but the bullet petals will not fly as far as a hollow point or solid.