Thread: Chinese DOC copies

Originally Posted by Tomdhu

I understand that Chinese copies of the DOC traps are now appearing in NZ and wanted to get more information about them.

I am in the UK and there may be a market for them here provided they are any good for stoats as we can no longer use Fenn Mark4 for stoats here.

Any information would be much appreciated.

Why are Fenn's not allowed ?

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Why are Fenn's not allowed ?

Since 2020 the approval for use of the Mark4 Fenn on stoats was withdrawn - a crazy situation because the UK Govt went to sleep over the issue and they adopted the AIHTS position on stoats by default.

The Fenns are still the top traps here for rats, grey squirrels, weasels, rabbits and mink. They cost less than 25% of the cost of a DOC150 hence virtually everyone ignore the law and continues with the Mark4 for staoats.

Originally Posted by Tomdhu

Since 2020 the approval for use of the Mark4 Fenn on stoats was withdrawn - a crazy situation because the UK Govt went to sleep over the issue and they adopted the AIHTS position on stoats by default.

The Fenns are still the top traps here for rats, grey squirrels, weasels, rabbits and mink. They cost less than 25% of the cost of a DOC150 hence virtually everyone ignore the law and continues with the Mark4 for staoats.

Trappers have a very thin "social licence" [ I hate that term] to trap in a few peoples eyes and we have to do what is correct as far as animal welfare. To ignore that we do so at our peril. It is not just good enough to say I am happy to kill it slowly as it is just a rat which will eat a baby bird...

Originally Posted by sore head stoat

Trappers have a very thin "social licence" [ I hate that term] to trap in a few peoples eyes and we have to do what is correct as far as animal welfare. To ignore that we do so at our peril. It is not just good enough to say I am happy to kill it slowly as it is just a rat which will eat a baby bird...

......Social licence....what, you mean like thrashing around in agony for 2-6 hours like the higher order mammals do with 1080??

(sorry, couldn't help myself)

Originally Posted by sore head stoat

Trappers have a very thin "social licence" [ I hate that term] to trap in a few peoples eyes and we have to do what is correct as far as animal welfare. To ignore that we do so at our peril. It is not just good enough to say I am happy to kill it slowly as it is just a rat which will eat a baby bird...

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