Thread: Feral cat comp hopefully.

Originally Posted by kruza

From the police Web site.
Anyone aged 18 or older can possess and use an airgun. Anyone under 18 years of age may use an airgun if they hold a New Zealand Firearms Licence or they are under the "immediate supervision" of a firearms licence holder or a person aged 18 or older.
So where's the young kids just running around shooting willy nilly?
Laws for domestic cats.
There are no laws about this, but the SPCA and Forest & Bird have guidelines for responsible cat ownership that include desexing cats that aren't intended for breeding, putting bells on cats to help warn birds and discourage hunting, and keeping your cat inside at night.
So if your cat is nowhere near your house, isn't visably marked are you a responsable cat owner.
You can shoot someone's pet for worring sheep or get it put down.

I agree with the bell part very much, even just very small bell only can sounds very little, but birds will get away long before their killing range from whatever.
Cats hater, cats lover, birds lover and those so called experts, scientists living on govt. budgets from tax payers actually can work together for the bigger picture.
The feral cats issue as well for other killing like dropping K5, in my humble...it `s all the same, behind it just gain and pain, and we as commoners only can touch the P, never the G.
In reality, if I put in 500,000 dollars into R&D, development of ecosystems friendly approaches away from current main studies, I can get at least one million dollars funds from govt, yes I contacted with them for a year, just....if you know me. And if I do further with local council it will be another two million or three, and if I bring up some technology, guess what I will get millions investments. But, in reality....I will need hired guns anyway, and I will live with it of what I do for the rest of my life.

Originally Posted by Rushy

Jeez how the world has changed MD. In Te Whetu back in the fifties and sixties, my paternal grandfather used to gather up feral kittens, put them in a hessian sack with a brick and biff them into the swamp.

@Rushy……..mate..the Sunlight soap crowd is going to show up at yr place tomorrow and wash your mouth out!!

…….my bet is that its been washed out a few times and you actually like the taste…….Baaaaawhahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

Originally Posted by A330driver

@Rushy……..mate..the Sunlight soap crowd is going to show up at yr place tomorrow and wash your mouth out!!

…….my bet is that its been washed out a few times and you actually like the taste…….Baaaaawhahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

Ha ha ha ha, I am certainly no stranger to Sunlight soap or the threat of having my mouth washed out. Although the threat was because I was a bit of a potty mouth and if you spend more than five minutes in my company you will see that the threat never worked.

Just another reason why comps like this should be encouraged
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...opulation.html

DOC website:
Dogs

Dogs frequently kill adult kiwi and can cause catastrophic declines in local populations.
All dogs, regardless of size, breed, training or temperament are potential kiwi killers. A dog can kill a kiwi by just giving it a playful push.
In Northland, the life expectancy of adult Northland brown kiwi has been reduced to just 14 years on average, due to dogs

Weka are classed endogenous through dna.
Weka are known to kill rats and mice.
Weka have been sujested as a farmed food source.
Weka have been removed from islands where they are trying to establish endangered birds due to its preditory behaviour.
What sort of argument is don't control one type of introduced pest that is killing native because it controls another type of introduced pest that is no where as destructive to native.
They both need controlling. And many more.
I actually have no idea who the person is who wrote the artical, but don't think the title that she has under it is any form of indication that she either knows what she is talking about or gives her rediculous reasoning any merit.
Just my view.

We've got a bunch of Timms traps (for possums) on trees and I put some beef offal in them hoping for some cats but didn't get any. Thinking about using some carp, anyone had success with a different bait?

Originally Posted by kukuwai

There are quite a few traps around nelson lakes like this one. Pretty cool with the transmitter alerting them to when the door has closed.



Be interesting to know what the dispatching method is here, can't imagine the folks checking the trap line strolling about with .22 but maybe they do?



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Yeah. There are quite a few cat traps around the area. Even up past lake head. They are required to be checked once triggered. Unfortunately, the majority of the triggers are from Weka and hedgehogs but there are still a lot of cats being caught. From memory around 8 in the last month. General method of dispatch is a .22 but depending on what else is happening in the area the 300BLK has been used too.

Awesome

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Originally Posted by slk12

We've got a bunch of Timms traps (for possums) on trees and I put some beef offal in them hoping for some cats but didn't get any. Thinking about using some carp, anyone had success with a different bait?

My experience with cats [which is limited] is fresh 1/4 hare or rabbit or duck carcass with feathers on and also scattered in and around the trap is my go to bait.. I have tried smoked fish, fresh fish, and many more lures but I know what catches for me. Cam Speedy would say 1/3 of the bait in the trap , 1/3 around close to the trap and 1/3 scattered around up to 20m away... Hopefully Time out will chip in

Went to Cam Speedy's talk here in New Plymouth just this week. Most of it I'd heard before but picked up some really good tips.

His point about predators being tuned in to different food sources, he said that at the moment, any that are near duck shooting spots will be tuned into them where they get hold of wounded or non-retrieved ducks. So duck carcasses at the moment near these sorts of areas will make for really good bait.

The best way to make people keep pet cats in at night is to make it legal for Chinese restaurants to serve cat

Originally Posted by slk12

We've got a bunch of Timms traps (for possums) on trees and I put some beef offal in them hoping for some cats but didn't get any. Thinking about using some carp, anyone had success with a different bait?

On a resent trip to Stewart Island a deer was shot close to camp so gutted it & put entrails into a fish bin with a piece of lung on the hook of the cage trap. We left the bin for 2 nights before burial at sea & both nights some thing had a go at the waste.3rd night cat was caught

Originally Posted by slk12

We've got a bunch of Timms traps (for possums) on trees and I put some beef offal in them hoping for some cats but didn't get any. Thinking about using some carp, anyone had success with a different bait?

you need to open up the head hole quite a bit before cats will stick their heads in they dont like their whiskers touching anything
also a tiny bit of bait out in front to give a slight taste ups your catch rate

live capture is a better way with cats then at least you can assess if it is a domestic

Some form of progress is better than none. Hope it goes well.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...g-section.html