Thread: Geissele AR 15 Trigger

Hi, Anyone know where I can buy a Geissele 2 stage Hi Speed match trigger? Model I'm after is 05-127. I can order one through Brownells but can't get the paper work sorted as I don't know what is required.
Anyone Ordered in I TAR items and able to Help??? Would love to but one from NZAR15.com but they don't import this model.
Cheers V Man.

I can order one through Brownells but can't get the paper work sorted as I don't know what is required

DSP-83, End User Statement, Purchase order and a certified copy of your import permit.

DSP-83
http://www.brownells.com/UserDocs/Mi...P83form930.pdf
Fill out sections 3, 4, 5 and 7. Leave the rest blank.

End user statement
http://www.brownells.com/UserDocs/
For 'End Use' write, 'These parts will be used by myself for personal use in (insert activity) within New Zealand', or something to this effect.

Purchase Order


From End user:

(your name/address)

(date)

To Suppler:

Brownells Inc.
200 South Front Street
Montezuma, IA 50171-9989
USA

Order requested:

Rifle Part.:
Manufacturer:
Quantity:
Unit Price:


(signed)

Your Name

Paste it into a word document, fill in your info and print.

Get your AO to photocopy your permit, write 'certified copy' and sign it.

Post the 4 documents to:
Brownells
International Licensing Department
Attn: Sandy
200 S Front St
Montezuma, IA 50171
USA

Awesome. Cheers Banana will give it a go.
Thanks V Man

Hi Banana,
Sorry but can you help once again?

Get your AO to photocopy your permit, write 'certified copy' and sign it.

What or who is AO and where do I get a Permit from?
Please advise.
Thank You for your help. It is very much appreciated.
Cheers
V Man

Originally Posted by Banana

DSP-83, End User Statement, Purchase order and a certified copy of your import permit.

DSP-83
http://www.brownells.com/UserDocs/Mi...P83form930.pdf
Fill out sections 3, 4, 5 and 7. Leave the rest blank.

End user statement
http://www.brownells.com/UserDocs/
For 'End Use' write, 'These parts will be used by myself for personal use in (insert activity) within New Zealand', or something to this effect.

Purchase Order


From End user:

(your name/address)

(date)

To Suppler:

Brownells Inc.
200 South Front Street
Montezuma, IA 50171-9989
USA

Order requested:

Rifle Part.:
Manufacturer:
Quantity:
Unit Price:


(signed)

Your Name

Paste it into a word document, fill in your info and print.

Get your AO to photocopy your permit, write 'certified copy' and sign it.

Post the 4 documents to:
Brownells
International Licensing Department
Attn: Sandy
200 S Front St
Montezuma, IA 50171
USA

I would suggest 2 more things,

a) Sign and DATE the purchase order. Sandy sent my purchase order back as while I had signed the covering letter I had not signed AND dated the purchase order and the state dept f**kwit rejected it. Anyway my spikes BCG was paid for and shipped yesterday yeah!

b) Ring/email your AO and just let him/her know you are doing this, just in case you get an awkard asshole in NZ Customs. Shouldn't happen for a trigger but Ive had to deal with some real assholes in Customs over the years who frankly are clueless, arrogant, ignorant pricks who have huge power to do as they please and weild it. I also think its good to build a relationship with your AO, keeping on his good side is worth the 5min call/email IMHO.

AO is your local Arms Officer at the police station

Thanks Keltic_Kiwi,
I spoke to my local Arms Offficer who told me that I didn't need a permit for the trigger. Question now is where do I get said permit? Do I ask him for one anyway?
Can you please advise if you know or can help.
Cheers
V Man

Ask him for one anyway.
You need the permit from your AO - Customs will NOT let a trigger through without it.
Its free, costs you little time, and often a chat with your AO really pays off

Cheers Gerbs,
Hey a big thanks to all you guys for your help.
Awesum
V Man

Some AOs will not issue a permit for something which does not require one, which is actually the NZ Police Policy.

There is no provision for Police to issue a permit to import for components of firearms, other than those that fall within the definition of ‘part’ above.

http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/defa...f-firearms.pdf

If you can get one, great, but you do not need one.

NZ Customs WILL let a trigger through for an A category firearm, because there is no law which allows them to withhold it.

Originally Posted by Koshogi

NZ Customs WILL let a trigger through for an A category firearm, because there is no law which allows them to withhold it.

Every time I've had Ruger 10/22 triggers - from complete assemblies through to just a Volquartsen hammer - come into the country, they've been held by NZ Customs and a permit required for release.
EVERY TIME.

Because it could be for an E cat 10/22. Confirm that it's for an A cat and they'll release it without a permit.

Originally Posted by Banana

Because it could be for an E cat 10/22. Confirm that it's for an A cat and they'll release it without a permit.

Not being picky - but the original question we're talking about is an AR15 trigger!
These days with the media clamoring and the overseas school shootings, and the AOS being called out if there is even a remote chance of a firearm being within 50km of an event.......
Cover your ass. Save yourself the grief, get a permit for anything you import.
NZ Customs (generally) are numptys.

Originally Posted by Gerbs

Not being picky - but the original question we're talking about is an AR15 trigger!
These days with the media clamoring and the overseas school shootings, and the AOS being called out if there is even a remote chance of a firearm being within 50km of an event.......
Cover your ass. Save yourself the grief, get a permit for anything you import.
NZ Customs (generally) are numptys.

If the AO will issue one, I asked about one for the lower Im bringing in and Wellington's AO said no yoou dont need one. However he may now be caving in on that which worries me, I'll try and see him today.

BTW the trigger isnt a select fire trigger and the USA dont care about exporting it as a part, but its over $100US so export permit is needed.

From brownells, "Regulated items would be barrels, barrel liners, actions, receivers, frames and cylinders. Also brass/bullets.
Triggers are gun component parts, they are not regulated."

Originally Posted by Gerbs

Cover your ass. Save yourself the grief, get a permit for anything you import.

I agree with you. Unfortunately, what you appear to have missed in my previous comment is that it is the NZ Police Policy to NOT issue a permit for something which does not legally require one. If you have an AO who is either ignorant of this policy or is just "a good bloke" and issues you one anyways, you are lucky.

As Steven mentioned, some AOs don't even issue permits for items which NZ Police says that you need one for.
A permit is not required for parts of a sporting rifle or shotgun other than the complete upper action (upper and/or lower receiver for AR/AK types).

While it is always prudent (and the right thing anyways) to be polite to government officials, sometimes you do need to be assertive and enlighten them on what the law says, not what they think it says.

I'd call for a review on the training and education of AOs but I'm sure I would just be labeled a "whinging ungrateful git".