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Hi guys
I've just had some good nature traps arrive 5 x A24s (rat and stoat) & 2 x A12's (possum)
I was wanting to purchase counters for my record keeping so got one at farmlands today for $55 - holy smoke I'm almost thinking flag the counters and put the $$ towards more traps!?
I'm interested if any of you have experience with the counters... are they reliable, worth the $$, my farther reckons they only work when he test fires the trap??
Interested in your replies.
Cheers
I got an A24 for a test and the gas cartridges are something they need to work on. The only way to test the cartridge is to trigger it and i reckon the best thing would be a pressure guage fitted to it or a refillable type cartridge that could be removed and shaken to test what is in it.The guage could be something like that fitted to fire ext.If you are good with spanners something could be made up.
I thought they came standard now?
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The counter on our A24 has not been 100% reliable, but pretty good.
If you had a productive spot, the counter will show that the 24 odd charges have been exhausted prior to a calendar gas change. Potentially saving you having an unarmed trap sitting there.
We only get a few, so the counter also lets me know whether to change the lure only, or the gas as well.
With or without the counter, the thing is the ducks nuts. The satisfaction you get seeing the total ticking over one by one is probably worth the $55.
@Feather or Shoot
I brought A24 Rat 5 Pack for $747.50 from the good nature web site and they did not come with counters.
I do see that for $199 you'll can buy a single A24 Rat & Counter kit. So it seems $5 better off on this option.
I'm thinking I'm gunna buy one more counter, put some cameras on them and see what happens.
Cheers.
Hope they work well @kukuwai - I have never used counters on the seven I have at the farm - just keep putting new gas bottles on every few months - they are cheep
I have got eleven new A24s with counters ready to put out at the Park - just trying to assess manpower, tracks and gaps between tracks that can’t be trapped on the tracks - just wanting to put them in shit holes that are hard to access
I am thinking that I will mount them on 400mm long pieces of 75*25 mounted at about 30 degree slope - I reckon that rats like tunnels and ramps and don’t like looking above themselves
I have had a lot of success with ramps using A24s and standard traps - I think that the one in the picture is a bit steep but easy to change by clipping on a lower fence wire - I see that GN are now offering a plastic ramp as an accessory - strange - when I suggested it a couple of years back they said that vertical mount was the way to go - the picture shows how my lure bottles mixed with olive oil and aniseed keeps on dribbling - the new GN lure dispensers will push out the lure daily
Hope you can show us some pictures - good luck with the A24s and counters
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Can you use air pistol cartridges?
So these should be safe to dogs as they shouldn't be able to get there head up there?
Will the rat one do mice?
I might try one around home.
So far I have only deployed two of the good nature traps 1 x A12 with no counter and 1 X A24 with counter. I put them out on Sunday just past. Had a quick look at them today &.....
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This guy was easy to see under the trap so didn't need a counter really. As far as setting/placement goes I have put it higher than they recommend so as not to get my springer spaniel.
Also I put heaps of good nature possum paste inside the shroud and some flour and aniseed on the tree trunk too !!
Next for the A24
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There was a mouse under it and yes the counter showed 1 so all good @ Bully they do catch mice, not sure about the air pistol cartridges but they are low down so very hard to get a dogs head up in them :thumbsup:
@time out The ones I have, have the new ALP which seems to be a good idea but I reckon that your onto a cracker with the aniseed and olive oil dribbling. And the ramp I am certainly gunna try that too as it opens up more setting options. Also got me thinking about putting them in shit country, man you are full of good ideas :D
Cheers !!
@kukuwai what lure are you using in the a24?
@bigbear Currently I just have the rat lure in them, but its easy to change to the stoat one at any stage.
Good thread, we are moving and the place has possum problems, lemon orchard on one side and fig orchard on the other, plenty of traps about, and one of these for possums, might look at more as don't want my cats caught in traps/cages...
I checked the A24 again today there was no sign of the mouse from a couple of days ago.
It was replaced by a rat
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Good thing is that the counter seems to be working
Good job good nature :thumbsup:
did you guys see programme the other night where they using mouse pee from inside cages mixed with water for lure in trap boxes?????
always thought it smelt very much like camphor...and vice versa.
I must be doing some think wrong:( Ive got a A24 set up in the chicken run one meter away in my tool shed ive got a good out gin trap with flour and aniseed , Gin trap has got two rats in two weeks
Just an update on these goodnature traps and counters for you fellas.
All the counters on the A24's are working well showing a total of 31 strikes between them, with 20 of those strikes coming in the month of june. They seem to be very effective on mice with sometimes 2 or 3 carcases lying beneath
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I have cameras set up on two of them and have found some interesting things... One of them has regular visits from a harrier hawk. There is often nothing under the trap even though the counter shows 10 and I have good night pictures of both rats and mice :) Guess its an easy feed for him !!
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Both A24s have had visits from possums which is interesting as neither of them are baited with the possum lure they both have the rat lure in them. However the ALP (automatic Lure Pump) seems to be working well as I have sometimes noticed a fresh drop of lure on the ground beneath the trap.
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Good luck all :)
Got some chocolate mice and rat lure from farmlands the other day, two days later got a good rat:thumbsup: but must buy a counter
Not sure what the final number was on this one - 003 when I last looked - they are not up to the ravages of huge pine trees falling near them - bloody glad I wasn’t there - hard to believe I could choose a tree that was stripped by a big one that uprooted from 30m away - I crawled through the logs and branches and found the A24 - couldn’t see any dead rats
Best numbers on the seven that I have out round the Park so far is 006 - I have ditched all of the chocolate lure ALPs and changed to possum paste mixed with olive oil - instant results :)
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Glad to see you have got your photos back up and running @time out :) Looks like that tree made a bit of a mess!!
The numbers are still going up on all the GN trap counters, I had a good inspection of them all today and was happy to see the trigger clean and clear on all of them. I have a mate who reckons the new ALP can clog up the trigger, something to keep an eye on. I did find an ants nest in one of them!!
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Also put a couple on long ramps and set them right in the hart of the wetland, it will be interesting to see how they go. When it floods this wetland can have up to a foot of water running through it so in this area a conventional set would be no good. The benefit of the long ramps here is that it should keep the traps above the high water mark, thus not drowning them in the next flood :)
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I decided to add the piece of galv mesh just to make sure the spaniel can't put her nose up there for a sniff :thumbsup:
I'm all out of GN possum paste but have just ordered some so when that arrives I'm gunna try time out's mix of olive oil and possum paste :)
I put a new a24 out on Friday with possum paste in the top - went back yesterday to check progress - 004 on the register and two bodies under the trap
The other seven A24s are very quiet - just the occasional strike
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Still getting regular kills in snap traps with heaps of flour blaze and Peanut Butter/Margarine mixture - 368 kills on the 2017 sheet
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Checked the photos on the camera today and found something interesting...
The counter on this GN trap has gone from 13 to 17 kills recently, looking at the pictures on the camera I think they may have all been mice but no carcases present There was also 4 pictures of this little weasel so I reckon he is cleaning up the kills
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So ive loaded up the APL with some stoat lure and also put a bit around the tree trunk so hopefully next time it shows up it will be tempted to put its head up inside the trap
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Fingers crossed :thumbsup:
Hopefully nothing takes it before u wip it's tail off
Can you reload those auto lure things?
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@Feather or Shoot check out the recent post by time out on the bird predator control thread he has a good description and photos of him removing the chocolate ALP and replacing with possum paste.
I didn't bother removing the chocolate lure, just squeezed as much stoat lure in there as I could :thumbsup:
