No penis engraved on the stock? :)
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No penis engraved on the stock? :)
It was always hand-drawn.
You need a stencil - make it a feature of all your guns :XD:
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t3 1in 8 twist .223
vx3 4.5 - 14 cds dials
egw o moa rail
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Cooper Varmint Extreme in 221 Fireball, it now wears a 6.5-20 x 40 Leupold
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Cooper Model 22 Montana Varminter was a 243 now wears a 22BR barrel and has a Leupold 6.5-20 x 40 on top.
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Cooper Model 38 Jackson Varminter in 17 HeeBe.
A couple of others I haven't got photos of a L/H Jongmans in 223, R/H Kimber 84 Varminter in 223, that'll do for now........Kiwi
I have the mirror image of that Jongmans only mine still has the original Shilen octagonal barrel in 223......KiwiQuote:
Originally Posted by nor-west
Weatherby Vanguard 22-250
Gunworks Suppressor
Howa Rail
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Looks like most of you guys have me outgunned as far as caliber is concerned, but here's my main varminter.
Savage .17HMR 93R17 BRJ.
Heavy fluted barrel, chopped down to 16".
22 Magnum MAE supressor.
Topped with a Leupold VX1 4-12x.
Approx 1" groups at 100m. Good for hares, possums, rabbits out to 200m.
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Longest kill to date is 230m but it took a couple of hits. Really runs outta steam past the 200m mark. Looking into a .204, but this is great for most of the smaller farms I shoot on up this way. Nice and quiet.
Nice
Very nice, you lose much/any velocity shortening the hmr? I read somewhere once optimum for the 22lr was 512mm or somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by RimfireNZ
Apparently 19" is optimum for 17hmr...Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
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Apparently I'm down 100fps. 2,450fps now. Still fair moving. It's much easier to handle now.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
One of the guys at MAE suggested 14" is optimal for 22.
Really? Optimum in this case referring to the length that will achieve the highest possible velocity.
14" =355mm near enough. If true my jw 15 will be min legal length in 5 min
I've been doing a bit of reading as well as chatting to a few different people who ought to know about this stuff and apparently in the case of rimfires a longer barrel isn't always better. With a 22 apparently once you start getting over that ideal length all the extra barrel does is slow the bullet slightly due to friction. I'd do a bit more reading on that around the 22 but it could be interesting. Those little Savage shorty's are interesting (they're really short) but after reading an article in NZ Guns they were getting speeds around 800fps with CCI subs (well below the 1000~ you normally get) so again, more reading is probably a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
I've seen a few test of the .17HMR in particular and it was quite interesting. Have a read of this: HMR Velocities
The claw is on to it then :thumbsup: 19" optimum for 17hmr(velocity)
Got nothing to back it up but 512mm sticks in my forgettery for 22lr. ?
The old marlin HMR I've got has retained its standard length barrel, 22" or thereabouts and it vapourises magpies!
has anyone got a ruger sr 22? it looks like a ruger 10/22 with bits hanging off it! but the free standing commercial pattern pistol grip is nice!:thumbsup:
I know, it's just a puff of feathers aye :D I love my 17Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter
Tthose SR22s are a way overpriced 10/22. you have to pull the scope rail and everything off to clean them so you screw round with your zero (not that a 22 is that accurate anyway). I have held a couple. I'd just get a normal 10/22. That's my 2c
Yea thats what i reckon 2! a 10/22 with lots of sh1t hanging off it attempting to be an AR.... cut the crap already and just Buy a REAL AR if your going down that track lol!
the HMR will always have a place in my heart,shot my first possum,rabbit etc with it and one cannot deny how deadly effective it is, provided one shoots within its limitations both realistically and ethically its a fantastic little round that I'd buy in a heartbeat time and again.
I've found it kills quicker than my 22mag,just when its windy my 22mag is trumps in that department.....
aside from that go and buy one,their rediculously accurate, the old 917 that we've got is a $500 rifle with a synthetic stock and blued barrel etc, it shoots quater of an inch at 100 with a gw supressor!
NOT BAD AYE! :thumbsup:
Rock River, do you check your 17hmr ammo for concentricity? I used to have to and used the wobbly/ out of true ammo for close shots. The straight ammo grouped fantastic at 100yrds, longest Rabbit kill is 338yrds at a Matapiro vineyard I frequent.
Rem 17 HMR 504T LS HB
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Or I use my 1955 BSA Century with a 17cal sleeve in it, chambered in HM2, longest shot so far is a hare @ 175yrds.
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The early HM2 ammo had the occasional crack around the case head which gave you a hell of a fright when you touched the trigger, the later batches are great and i havnt seen a cracked case in years.
I do like the 17HMR and since CZ make a lefty I have a couple, one is going to be rebarreled as a 22WMR since CZ don't make a lefty in 22WMR.
The link to Bulberry's website about the 17HMR velocities is quite interesting but does anyone notice that the 22" velocity is less than the 21" velocity, and only 2fps faster on average than the 20" and the 21" velocity is greater than the 20" velocity. Another thing I noticed was that the 22", 21", 20" & 19" all have extreme spreads of between 66 and 103 yet when you cut that 19" barrel down to 18" the extreme spread drops to around 40fps, which should mean better accuracy. Perhaps more than 5 shots need to be done at each barrel length.
Vietnamcam I shortened a JW15 down to 17" the rifle was for my nephew and the bore was nowhere near centred where I cut it off, still grouped under 1" at 50yds. The nephew was extremely happy to have a rifle sized for him.
7mmSAUM that BSA looks rather nice do you have a full side on shot of it?............Kiwi
talking about the HMR.... I might sell my 22mag and buy one... and nope I don't, unless the round looks funny or different to the rest visually i don't normally bother.... whys that?
I would highly recommend it. If I was going to do it again I'd get the plain jane Savage 93R17G (the walnut one) or a CZ 452. The round kills small critters one shot every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter
Awesome caliber for possums.
Here is my latest, & its even a 17hmr (in keeping with the current discussion). CZ455 Thumbhole Varmint with a Swarovski Z3 3-10*40 with their BRX reticle. Just put a Yodave trigger kit in it which sorted the creep & trigger weight. Also has a Tuiman 2 suppressor on it...
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Quite tempted to get a 22LR barrel & magazine for it as well. $250 is pretty good value for the barrel/mag I reckon...
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Originally Posted by The Claw
She looks shit hot sam shes a nice setup,
i have a Marlin 917 VSF that i have fiddled with an shoots like a demon, when my brother brings it back ill put some photos up also, dont have much on the above tho
Yeah you're not wrong about their triggers Sam, Ive got a standard 455 & the trigger was bloody horrible, the worst part of a otherwise neat gun, how muchie was the trigger kit ?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Claw
I'll post a pic once I get its new scope sorted
I actually have a spare kit... I have some adaptors coming too so I can use Burris Signature Zee rings. From J&P Products (i think) if you are interested in a set as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipo
Flick me a PM...
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Kiwishooter, I don't think I have a side pic of the BSA, when I'm next out for a bunny or two I will take the camera.
This is what I am running ror scaring the rabbits. It is a Rem X R 100 set up as a 20 VarTarg. I found the origional thumbhole stock to be overly heavy and made for difficult carry on a three or four walk in some of the rabbit country I was - am shooting.
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I got a piece or nice light quarter sawn from Brian at NZ Walnut and cobbled another stock together for it that saved me a pound and a half in weight and made it much easier carry. Changed scopes as well to the Monarch at the same time.
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Tried a home made butt-pod for a while but can no longer get down prone so shooting is done from standing over a set of Bog-Pod three legged sticks so now shoot mainly inside 200yds in which case the reduced load at 2800fps is just the ticket.
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Von Gruff.
Far out Von Gruff. That is a tiny arse group! What is it with you guys and non-standard calibers lol.
What a looker. Funny you took the stock (looks like my Boyds featherweight) off. I've just taken the one off mine and put the SPS stock back on. I'd love to make a stock out of a bit of island rimu (yakka) I've got in the garage but it's a damn heavy wood. If I can get my mate at the old joinery factory I used to work at to let me in, I might give it a crack as a bit of fun.
That scope sun shield is a monster!
I have just made up another stock for my 7x57 as the Walnut was very dense and very heavy. It looks a picture but has taken a bit of a hiding on the hill once or twice so I wanted to replace it for the rougher hunts. A heavy stock is a real handicap on a hunting rifle whether it be for varmints or larger meat on the hill.
I made a laminate stock but a little differently than is usually done. I started with a 15mm central core and machined the usual stock taper into the core, rather than into the finished stock that cuts though the outer lams. That is the tapering from the mag well through to the forearm tip, then the same from the mag well back through the wrist and the reverse taper in from the butt. I weanted to have all the laminates running paralell with the eventual outside of the stock so I could have it slimer, lighter and yet retain the strength.Layed up the first couple of laminates then markedand cut out for a blind internal mag so I could do away with the heavy 98 Mauser bottom metal. At this stage I skeletonised the butt area of the core and the first two lams the layed up the rest of the laminates and had at it. While shaping I decided to shorten the foreend like an early westly Richards and slim the wrist a little more than origonally planned to be more like an old Manton wrist so ended up through the last lam but it was really only a try stock to see if the idea would work and I also hadn't done a blind mag before so it was really an experiment as much as anything. Made a trigger guard out of some .05 brass I had and everything worked so well so used a jandal glued to a light alloy plate for the recoil pad and ended up with a very much lighter stock and one that it wouldn't matter about any dings etc.
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Think about the weight and the end use of the rifle when deciding on the stock timber but it is a really enjoyable way to spend a few hours in the shed.
Von gruff.
My new 6.5x47 built by NZ Hunter. Should be a good shooter.
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Nice rifle L.R. Let us know how it goes.
Yeah hopefully start some load work with it this weekend if the weather plays ball, I'm going to start with 130 bergers and H4350.Quote:
Originally Posted by Normie
LR who is NZHunter??
Greg Duley and his team. NZ Hunter magazine has a precision rifle division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwishooter
LR - Wow that looks awesome :thumbsup: There are some super accurate rifles coming out of the NZ hunter camp. My long range varminter being built by Harvey Westland is almost a dead ringer of your rig but with Barnard action & 284 Shehane. I'm thinking an 162gr Amax @3100 fps should make for paddock pizza :wtfsmilie:
+1 They know how to do it an do a fine job at that:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by L.R
:thumbsup: Good choice using Harvey.Quote:
Originally Posted by LJP
Yes they have built my last two rifles and I am very happy with the finished product, everything functions and is finished properly, which is more than every other gunsmith in NZ that i have used has managed, and i have tried a lot of different guys. The only thing that can be a little difficult with NZ Hunter is the communication, Greg obviously is a very busy guy and is often away and they can't be reached by phone, which is understandable i guess as Greg would spend all day on the phone if he answered it.Quote:
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