Thread: Sunday program tonight

"The Forgotten Pest"
Wallaby feature

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Have the various tenure holders in the SI /Waimate wallaby huge containment area made hunters welcome and made access available over the past five or so years?

Yes and No

Some landowners and managers are really good.
Others seem to be anti-hunting and prefer to do nothing then Ecan comes on and does a poison drop, sends the owners a big bill which then the landowners whinge like a little girl about it

Originally Posted by cambo

Yes and No

Some landowners and managers are really good.
Others seem to be anti-hunting and prefer to do nothing then Ecan comes on and does a poison drop, sends the owners a big bill which then the landowners whinge like a little girl about it

yep ain't that the truth, same with the rabbits here, some farmers are pro - active and happy to have you knock as many over as you can. Others act like it's some massive privilege for you to spend your time, money and ammo to help
with their problem
The worse of them simply let no one on and cry and whinge they have a rabbit problem and need help from the government and another virus release funded by ratepayers / councils.
They got no chance containing those roo's , I here the odd one turning up at Tarra's now.

Very familiar story. Similar to Canadas and deer, pigs, NI wallabies, rabbits and even possums.

@viper not quite the same-whilst I know it came down to timing and opportunity/scheduling, back in the day when I used to do the Easter bunny hunt in Alex, every year during the debrief team captains would relate how the farmer would tell them as they were being shown around the farm that only a few weeks back it was poisoned/shot/disease went through etc. then go on to shoot bugger all for the day.
I do realise that a group of mostly amateur's in 24 hours wouldn't make much of a dent in it, but considering for me to drive down from the coast, stay away for the weekend (For quite a few years didn't have to pay for accommodation so that was lucky), ammo, fuel etc. over 800 bucks easy for the weekend. When we frequently, pretty much always, got a block that only got 200-400 rabbits, for 10 of us slogging our guts out all night it put me off going back.
I don't want to go all that way just to shoot 30 rabbits.
I'd rather the cockie didn't put his farm on the list

@csmiffy , lol, crazy eh, they know your coming but make it hard for you.
I have some awesome farmers I shoot for, really good buggers who appreciate the time and effort put in.
Some are buying my ammo now to keep me coming back and I really try to work their farms hard on pest destruction and though I will never get 100 % on top of the rabbits they know every bit helps.
Other farmers just make the whole experience a hassle , shame when your just trying to help and it costs them nothing.

Everybody is different I guess, I have got to the stage of looking after the guys that look after me and make me feel welcome.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...es-brink-death

Originally Posted by cambo

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...es-brink-death

Here comes the poison.

I used to shoot wallabies on a regular basis up to 100 a night but since comrade globalist cindy took my AR I just haven't thought about going out again.

Is that another success for the coalition of losers.

Just got back from a couple of nights on the wallabies. 408 confirmed dead. Thats using bolt action too.

As farms are being run more like a "business" rather than just a farm they are now increasingly aware of their health and safety obligations and liabilities. If you happen to roll off a bank and get hurt then the farmer is in the gun from Work Safe as it is a workplace accident. That could just be a convenient excuse for some but a potential financial loss they have to consider.

Originally Posted by Niceandfar

Just got back from a couple of nights on the wallabies. 408 confirmed dead. Thats using bolt action too.

As farms are being run more like a "business" rather than just a farm they are now increasingly aware of their health and safety obligations and liabilities. If you happen to roll off a bank and get hurt then the farmer is in the gun from Work Safe as it is a workplace accident. That could just be a convenient excuse for some but a potential financial loss they have to consider.

No not if he is not employing you, just has to inform you of any major hazards on the farm at that time. No different to biking on the farm or a casual walk, as far as I know, its a recreational pursuit.

Yeah I dont know farm specifics but its treated as a workplace. On a building site for example if someone goes onto the site in the weekend (breaks in or just being nosey) and falls down a hole or skewers themselves on some exposed reinforcing, the builder is in the gun for not covering the reo or hole etc.
They may well have very limited/no liability but its the fear it generates that causes issues I guess. Enforcement of safety is a fairly recent thing on farms so fear of the unknown?

Another thing to remember is we aren't very efficient with our time. It only takes one shithead that leaves a gate open to undo the work of 30 guys that were great. Also by paying professionals/poisoning they can right this off as a business expense which means less tax. We will never be the solution to the problem it requires professionals or poisons. If we could we wouldn't have areas that have excessive numbers of deer etc (which we do). I think we should treat it the same as anything else private land and not treat it like we are the only ones doing a favour as letting us on their land is a favour to us as well. It benefits both party's. As for the safety thing cockies are only just being introduced to the enforcement and as such they will play on the safe side of things as they aren't often gamblers. When your hear stories of 10s of thousands in fines for an employee not using a helmet on a 2 wheeler even though it was supplied they get a bit scared.

There are some "standard" no responsibilty agreement form about which avoid landowner liability. I used to sign one annually in order to cross landcorp farms.