222 vs 223 on deer

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Originally Posted by gimp

How do you get them? Bryn isn't on trademe anymore and a (brief) Google search is fruitless

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@TARGEX - targex10.1@gmail.com

I believe thats called a "double tap" LOL

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Originally Posted by gimp

69gr Sierra TMK ? 73gr ELDM if it will work.

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69TMK seem impossible to find at present.
The other problem with long bullets in a 223 can be magazine length.
Im trying these PPU. Longer than a hollow point MK , larger meplate and much deeper cavity. Only $52/100. They shoot well so Im hoping they perform.
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Originally Posted by gimp

If you shoot a rabbit or hare with a .223 (or .222 if you could find one twisted appropriately) with a heavy bullet, it will die.

There's a lot to appreciate about the simplicity of having a single light recoiling quiet rifle that kills everything with no fuss - the .223 with 70-80gr bullets is definitely a simple "general purpose" option (as would the .222 be, if built with a 1:7 or 1:8 twist) for the handloader. There's no additional complexity to handloading a heavy bullet vs light.

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Yes, but so is the same rifles with 55gr projectiles. and flatter shooting at the ranges im thinking of. Simplicity for me is knowing my little Howa 223 will shoot almost any factory 55gr factory load with acceptable accuracy as well as a hand load of same weight if I wish to reload. Over the last few years of ammo and component shortage it has been very comforting knowing my cabinet of ammo of many brands was all usable at the drop of a hat.
when we have time to tinker, then tinker away, but just having a standard factory rifle that shoots standard ammo and being able to pick both up and go hunting has a value of its own.

well tomorrow Im off for a hunt,never been there before and unknown area completely...so thought about the short n light 222..... then the super reliable and accurate 223.... then used my brains and got the .270 out instead. maybe when I know what country is like and what ranges are likely to be the wee rifles will come for walk..but for now its better to have a bit of insurance,just incase its not ideal. forsure a 60-80grn .224 is good,but a 130-170grn .277 is gooderer LOL.
now I actually have to find something t oshoot or its a moot point either way.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

well tomorrow Im off for a hunt,never been there before and unknown area completely...so thought about the short n light 222..... then the super reliable and accurate 223.... then used my brains and got the .270 out instead. maybe when I know what country is like and what ranges are likely to be the wee rifles will come for walk..but for now its better to have a bit of insurance,just incase its not ideal. forsure a 60-80grn .224 is good,but a 130-170grn .277 is gooderer LOL.
now I actually have to find something t oshoot or its a moot point either way.

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There's no intelligence involved when you mentioned 270

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Yep, I'm still alive last time I looked! Look older each time I have a look but still here.
If you want me its like they said targex10.1@gmail.com
Have 80gr .224" available again for anyone wanting them too.
Cheers:thumbs:

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Originally Posted by TARGEX

Yep, I'm still alive last time I looked! Look older each time I have a look but still here.
If you want me its like they said targex10.1@gmail.com
Have 80gr .224" available again for anyone wanting them too.
Cheers:thumbs:

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Bloody great bullet those 80grn my Tikka loves them

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Originally Posted by BRADS

There's no intelligence involved when you mentioned 270

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she worked a treat..nice fat sow at 150yards.