Thread: 223 on deer

About 67mm from memory, a bit longer than most .223 mags will allow

Originally Posted by gimp

About 67mm from memory, a bit longer than most .223 mags will allow

That is long!
Jefferson's bottom metal on my Howa allows about 63mm....quite a bit more than the stock magazine but still a long way short of 67mm.

It's quite annoying that the Howa mini magazine is so restrictive for OAL. The modified accurate mags I'm using would allow longer if you wanted e.g. you could chamber for a longer throat and seat the 88gr ELDMs out further. My chamber is roughly set up for a 75-80 seated with the base at the neck/shoulder junction in the case.

Left - right: Red hind 250m, fallow buck 170m, bull tahr 60m. Nice little mushrooms

Those are 80 ELDMs gimp?

Yes, 80gr ELDM at 2810fps muzzle

Originally Posted by gimp

Left - right: Red hind 250m, fallow buck 170m, bull tahr 60m. Nice little mushrooms...

That is one of the most interesting recovered bullet photos I have seen in a while @gimp.

I’ve been a staunch advocate of ELD-M bullets in my homeland for a good while now - I am using the 6mm version and flattening reds, fallow and goats past 400m. Very happy indeed with the terminal performance. By and large I get lambasted by the Europeans for being an unethical heathen for even hinting at the use of “match bullets”. (Add that to the concept of using a .224 calibre rifle and I’d be put on the rack.)

I’d love to know what the expansion on those mushrooms is as a function of calibre. They all look over 2x and a bit more.

It seems though that if the ELDM hit solid bone they do seperate (as per one of gimp's Tahr). Over all though the ELDM do seem to hold together better than the Sierra Tipped MK.

Ive just had 2 of the "Waters" 6 shot 2.6" (66mm) Tikka mags arrive so that I can try the 80ELDM, and seat the 77TMK I'm using a bit further out. I don't though expect to see a big advantage with the ELDM on deer.

I doubt you'd notice a difference. This little guy did separate, found halfway through the off shoulder. I didn't find the core but I also didn't really waste time looking as it was more or less dark and I had a big walk out

270m

Go you @gimp! Most excellent. You are a true .223 savant. I have put mine to one side until their antlers fall off.

Where did the ELDM strike and how did it perform?

Originally Posted by gimp

270m

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Absolute savage. Love your work with the 223 mate

Originally Posted by gimp

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Nice one and @gimp bring back your videos!


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Originally Posted by Tahr

Go you @gimp! Most excellent. You are a true .223 savant. I have put mine to one side until their antlers fall off.

Where did the ELDM strike and how did it perform?

I'd say I'm an unreasonable optimist, or purely irrational

Hit high in the shoulder and broke the spine, died instantly.

Originally Posted by gimp

I'd say I'm an unreasonable optimist, or purely irrational

Hit high in the shoulder and broke the spine, died instantly.

Great! And it was a wonderful pic too.