Thread: 223 on deer

Originally Posted by Tahr

@Freezer the stove going full bore last night cooking dinner.

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@Tahr, It is a few years since I was installing Log burners. Looking at yours and not being able to tell exactly the distances from a photo, it does look a bit close to a combustible surface - that being the ply. For an unshielded fire like a Pot belly the offset is something like 90cm.
As your flue is unshielded ( no reflector ) the ply behind it is likely hotter than is safe. Wood will get dryer and dryer until a point where it combusts easily. From memory the surface cannot exceed 90 degrees, but I think that is of a non combustible surface.
A simple and tidy solution is to run a couple of sheets of baby iron up the two walls behind mounted on Rondo battens with airflow allowed by gapping the iron off the floor and leaving a gap at the top. My guess is that a camping type burner like that doesnt come with an install spec ?

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

@Tahr, It is a few years since I was installing Log burners. Looking at yours and not being able to tell exactly the distances from a photo, it does look a bit close to a combustible surface - that being the ply. For an unshielded fire like a Pot belly the offset is something like 90cm.
As your flue is unshielded ( no reflector ) the ply behind it is likely hotter than is safe. Wood will get dryer and dryer until a point where it combusts easily. From memory the surface cannot exceed 90 degrees, but I think that is of a non combustible surface.
A simple and tidy solution is to run a couple of sheets of baby iron up the two walls behind mounted on Rondo battens with airflow allowed by gapping the iron off the floor and leaving a gap at the top. My guess is that a camping type burner like that doesnt come with an install spec ?Attachment 203252

I will measure the distance from the flu to the wall. I did put my and on the ply and it was only just warm.

It came from China. No specs.

They are a tent stove, so adapting to a hut is certainly going to need common sense to be safe. Pretty sure Thar has that in spades.
Good points about distances, perhaps pop a reflector on the flue or a couple sheets tin on the wall?

Just finished working on a load with Hornady 60gn V Max bullets / 2206H powder and now want to load some Hornady 73gn eldm .
The ADI website suggests for a 70 gn bullet starting at 23gn and a max of 25gn ( 2206H powder ) , and for the 75gn bullet 22.5gn- 24.5gn
Logic would say in the middle of these recommendations would be correct for the 73gn , is that correct ?
Any advice would be appreciated.

heck I use 24.5-25grns wit ha 55grn and consider it hot enough..... its your rifle,your eyes n hands next to it... but yip your calculations look correct.

if you use data for the weight ABOVE the weight you have...you will be fine.

Sick of the rain and being cooped up inside...its been 2 days Im packed and ready for a night away tomorrow. .223 is ready.

Originally Posted by Ground Control

Just finished working on a load with Hornady 60gn V Max bullets / 2206H powder and now want to load some Hornady 73gn eldm .
The ADI website suggests for a 70 gn bullet starting at 23gn and a max of 25gn ( 2206H powder ) , and for the 75gn bullet 22.5gn- 24.5gn
Logic would say in the middle of these recommendations would be correct for the 73gn , is that correct ?
Any advice would be appreciated.

The 70 grain Speer is a very blunt projectile that has to be seated deep so you would be better to use the 69 grain Sierra for your comparison. You would be lucky to get much more than 24.5 grains of AR2206H in the case without compression depending on mag and throat length.
GPM.

Originally Posted by Ground Control

Just finished working on a load with Hornady 60gn V Max bullets / 2206H powder and now want to load some Hornady 73gn eldm .
The ADI website suggests for a 70 gn bullet starting at 23gn and a max of 25gn ( 2206H powder ) , and for the 75gn bullet 22.5gn- 24.5gn
Logic would say in the middle of these recommendations would be correct for the 73gn , is that correct ?
Any advice would be appreciated.

@Ground Control what is your internal mag length (i.e. the longest OAL that will fit). In imperial for this old guy please.

Originally Posted by Tahr

@Ground Control what is your internal mag length (i.e. the longest OAL that will fit). In imperial for this old guy please.

2.32 in ( 58.92 mm )
That is the max length that feeds and functions reliability through my internal mag .

Originally Posted by grandpamac

The 70 grain Speer is a very blunt projectile that has to be seated deep so you would be better to use the 69 grain Sierra for your comparison. You would be lucky to get much more than 24.5 grains of AR2206H in the case without compression depending on mag and throat length.
GPM.

that mere 24.5grns of AR2206h is all some of us...well ME ...have used for over 20 years with 50-55grn projectiles and have NEVER once considered it underpowered.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Sick of the rain and being cooped up inside...its been 2 days Im packed and ready for a night away tomorrow. .223 is ready.

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Interesting placement for your torch. Too far forward? Tried that but couldn't see thru scope.

Originally Posted by TeRei

Interesting placement for your torch. Too far forward? Tried that but couldn't see thru scope.

Turret is too high to be behind it. Works ok. Mainly wallaby and they are usually quite close.

We await with bated breath the next instalment of death by foto. LOL.

Originally Posted by Ground Control

2.32 in ( 58.92 mm )
That is the max length that feeds and functions reliability through my internal mag .

My Load for 69 grain Targex in the same size mag length as yours is 25.2grns of 2206H. Compressed load but not overly so.

If you are using 73grn eldm 23grns would be a safe place to start.