I couldn't get the 80 ELDM to shoot in my Tikka (even with long mag). The 77 TMK did so I didn't persist with the ELDM. Gimp's and my experience confirms that there is nothing between them when it comes to knocking things over.
The 52 ELDM's shoot lights out in my rifles and is no slug if popped into the right spot on deer. Sometimes I get the odd deer with them when chasing smaller critters.
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