Thread: 223 on deer

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

Please tell me that's a yearling red?? If it's not,Bella is getting huge.

Mature hind. She's a big lump of a dog. You would love her. She not 20 months yet and that was our 53rd deer together.

Wooow she is a big girl,down a limping yearling easilly.

To the ones that have used it, just after some.more info on the 52gr targex.
Work because they are explodey, tough etc?
Compare vs old school but reliable 55gr hornady sp

Originally Posted by csmiffy

To the ones that have used it, just after some.more info on the 52gr targex.
Work because they are explodey, tough etc?
Compare vs old school but reliable 55gr hornady sp

They are soft enough to kill small things but hard enough to get adequate penetration on deer. Using BM2 you can sling them real fast and cover off their low(ish) BC - like in the 3250 fps bracket for a 20" barrel. Ideal for the situation where you are shooting rabbits/wallaby/goats but might come across the odd deer.

Way back in the day we used Sierra 52 grn Match in 222/223 'cos they were harder than varmint bullets so penetrated, held together and expanded and you mostly found the little hard base at the end of its travels. The 52 Targex is similar but better.

They are very accurate. Better than the 55 grn Hornady? I think so - they seem better on larger deer . But you are talking about small margins.

Ideal for slow twist barrels.

On Wednesday I shot a nanny goat at 455 yards with the 52gn Targex. It was sitting down at the base of a small bank. I aimed at the center of the chest and can't be sure where I hit it (I didn't recover it) but it just rolled over and slid down the bank below. Very satisfying.

A couple using 62 grn Norma I loaded for wallaby but thought I would try on deer, albeit little ones.
200 yds. MV 3180. Arrival velocity 2380. Bullet had no trouble going right through. Probably lead for Africa in the meat
Both dropped on the spot


Low chest/heart


It was broken hearted


Neck

Couple of bush hunted Sika from the week.
75gr eldms doing the business.
First one was hardly a test, head shot at about 15 yards as it peered around a tree at me. All energy dumped in the head with no exit.



Second one was sitting down quartering towards me at about 25 yards. She never stood up. Projectile exited behind the offside shoulder through the ribs.
Get a lot of bang flops on the small bush Sika with the 75gr eldms which is good.

I read that last comment and can't help but think of the 87grn Hornady in 243 that was so popular for awhile. They must be quite similar broadly speaking. Much quieter and less powder and in smaller action for sure but ,well,you know.

Today I got up at 5am, burned some toast, had a coffee, and climbed a hill. Recovering from covid so not feeling terribly fit. Spotted a chamois from the ridge top and dropped down to have a closer look. Nanny and kid, leave them alone. Had a good hard look at a patch of scrub and eventually located a hind bedded, visible through a small gap in the vegetables. Got a good position with my schedium on top of a tripod and shot her.



80gr ELDM, 330m, impact V about 2200fps. Shot was 27⁰ downhill angle, quartering to. She ran 10 metres downhill and died. Bullet entered high shoulder, shattered the scapula, broke a rib, went through 1 lung and the heart, and ended up in the gut cavity. She still ran despite the broken bone, it is my observation that breaking front legs doesn't do a lot to stop them running, and heart shots often run.

Knife pointing to entry


Wound on the inside of the shoulder


And correspondingly on the ribs


Lung wound channel. I gave them a rinse in the creek. Big permanent wound cavity and a large zone of extravasation.


Heart


Inside rib cage


Bullet jacket & core as found

Good.

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Great photos @gimp.

Great photos @gimp.

Originally Posted by Dama dama

Great photos @gimp.

Saw a programme on Sky last night about dropping the A Bomb on Japan. Neither Hiroshima or Ngasaki had that much damage. Unreal.

Originally Posted by TeRei

Saw a programme on Sky last night about dropping the A Bomb on Japan. Neither Hiroshima or Ngasaki had that much damage. Unreal.

I don't really understand where you are coming from , but here's some info for ya
By the end of 1945, the bombing had killed an estimated 140,000 people in Hiroshima, and a further 74,000 in Nagasaki. In the years that followed, many of the survivors would face leukemia, cancer, or other terrible side effects from the radiation.

Originally Posted by gimp

Today I got up at 5am, burned some toast, had a coffee, and climbed a hill. Recovering from covid so not feeling terribly fit. Spotted a chamois from the ridge top and dropped down to have a closer look. Nanny and kid, leave them alone. Had a good hard look at a patch of scrub and eventually located a hind bedded, visible through a small gap in the vegetables. Got a good position with my schedium on top of a tripod and shot her.

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80gr ELDM, 330m, impact V about 2200fps. Shot was 27⁰ downhill angle, quartering to. She ran 10 metres downhill and died. Bullet entered high shoulder, shattered the scapula, broke a rib, went through 1 lung and the heart, and ended up in the gut cavity. She still ran despite the broken bone, it is my observation that breaking front legs doesn't do a lot to stop them running, and heart shots often run.

Knife pointing to entry
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Wound on the inside of the shoulder
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And correspondingly on the ribs
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Lung wound channel. I gave them a rinse in the creek. Big permanent wound cavity and a large zone of extravasation.
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Heart
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Inside rib cage
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Bullet jacket & core as found
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You are just like my old man carrying around a steel ruler like that...!